Oct. 15, 2025

Vaquita warns us about sharks: lessons for the ocean’s future

Vaquita warns us about sharks: lessons for the ocean’s future

Vaquita stands as one of the rarest marine mammals on Earth, with fewer than 20 left in the wild. In this episode, we explore what the near-extinction of the vaquita teaches us about the future of sharks and why their survival is critical to the health of the ocean.

Sharks play an essential role in keeping marine ecosystems balanced, yet they face many of the same threats that doomed the vaquita: bycatch, overfishing, and weak enforcement. This episode dives into the parallels, the urgency of acting before it is too late, and how the loss of sharks would ripple into every part of our lives, from food security to coastal protection.

Melissa Marquez's article in Forbes: https://www.forbes.com/sites/melissacristinamarquez/2025/09/30/what-the-vaquitas-fate-warns-about-sharks/

 

 

Transcript
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Picture this an entire species.

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The Vaquita, a small porus in
the Gulf of California is on the

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verge of disappearing forever.

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Fewer than 20.

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Individuals remain.

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And while this tragedy unfolds, it holds
up a mirror to another unfolding crisis.

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The decline of sharks across our oceans.

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So what if the vaquitas
fate isn't just their story?

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It's a glimpse into our own future.

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We're gonna be talking about that
on today's episode of the How

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to Protect the Ocean Podcast.

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Let's start the show.

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Hey everybody.

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Welcome back to another exciting episode
of the How to Protect the Ocean Podcast.

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I'm your host, Andrew Lewin, and
this is the podcast where you find

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out what's happening with the ocean,
how you could speak up for the

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ocean, and what you could do to live
for better ocean by taking action.

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Today I'm diving into a powerful article
by marine biologist and friend and

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writer, Melissa Christina Marquez.

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She wrote an article in Forbes, which
explores what the vaquitas decline warns

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us about sharks and the lesson is stark.

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It's urgent and deeply personal
because when ecosystems

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unravel, we feel the impact.

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If you want to find out the whole article,
you can find out by just clicking the

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description if you're watching this on
YouTube or in the show notes because

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the article will be there from Forbes.

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So I'll be sure to post that.

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'cause I always wanna make sure that
the people who write the articles get

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the credit and get read, not just listen
to me like sp on about the article.

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Very much go to the article and read
it because not only is Melissa a great

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writer, but the story is very important.

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So I've talked about the Vaquita
a number of times on this podcast,

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but I'm gonna give essentially
a description of what's going on.

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So the Vaquita is probably the most
endangered marine mammal in the world.

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living in only one part of Mexico's
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Sea of Cortez is also known as.

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Now, its population has plummeted due to
gillnet entanglement in illegal fisheries

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targeting another species, the toto alba.

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And this fish is a large fish that is
huge and is very easily to consume.

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but it's also used in Asian countries
for specific medicinal purposes,

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which hasn't been actually proven
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journals or scientific studies.

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It's just a cultural thing.

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And so this fish, this total alba is
something that a lot of people want.

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And so to be able to get it, they
have to use gill nets to be able

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to catch it or that's how they
use it to be able to catch it.

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And then the vaquita actually gets
stuck within the gill nets, which

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happens to a lot of marine mammals,
not just the Vaquita, but in this

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case, the Vaquita has been, you know,
a huge part of this bycatch within

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the fisheries, which is catch that
you don't intend to catch within a

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specific gear, but you catch it anyway.

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And it can actually cause a lot
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which it has for this poor vaquita.

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Now vaquita is an elusive animal,
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So when I say, you know,
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there's probably actually less.

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Last estimate that I
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And so there's even less now,
and it's very difficult to find

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out if they've actually grown in
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We just know that we don't see
them as much as we used to.

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So there's been, like awareness campaigns
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Unfortunately the efforts came too late.

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Like even the Gulf of the government
of Mexico put in navy ships to help

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take away the threat of gill nets.

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We even had the sea shepherd
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in and have their own boats
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The problem was, is you're bordering
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they can get money for these fish.

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When some of them put out, not all
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their gill ness and they catch these
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Then what happened is apparently organized
crime got involved and that makes it

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even more complex to stop this problem
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involved, especially within a country
like Mexico, you get cartels involved.

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It becomes a very difficult thing to stop.

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continues to continue, continue.

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And Eventually what's gonna happen
is, you know, people are like, it's

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probably too late for the vaquita.

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We don't wanna lose hope.

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I say this with a caveat,
we never wanna lose hope.

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We always want to bring
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But to be in a realistic
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It's probably too late for the vaquita.

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However, there are a lot of organizations,
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working to stop that from happening.

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So I don't want to dismiss their efforts
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But there is a very big problem
with the vaquita and there is

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a chance that we might lose the
vaquita to extinction because of us.

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It's another reason.

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It's because of us.

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But the Vaquita also stands
as a symbol for what happens

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when conservation is delayed.

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And when we don't act in time
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effort, we get problems coming in
and stemming in from inaction, which

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happens a lot within conservation.

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By the time, sometimes we find out
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particular species or in a habitat.

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Sometimes it's already too
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Or some people will just be like,
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' cause it takes a lot of times
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there's usually money involved.

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There's usually a reason, like it's
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be a community or something else.

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And you need to really make sure that
you conservation on point, but it's also

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working properly with local communities.

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Now, here's where sharks come in,
because you're probably like, Andrew,

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you're talking about marine mammals.

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How is this involved with sharks?

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Well, the warning for sharks, so the same
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bycatch, overfishing and weak enforcement
are pushing sharks towards collapse.

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So as an example, you see a lot
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In Africa that are very much remote and
you don't really see what's happening

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and you start to see them fish for guitar
fish or wedge fish that I learned in our

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podcast on Beyond Jaws with David Ebert.

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We covered a symposium for about a month
that was happening online where we talked

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how a lot of fishing nations, a lot of
fishing communities will fish for sharks

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because that's what they eat and they need
to survive and they need to sell the meat

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for food because they need to survive.

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Without identifying those communities
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to understand why they eat what they
eat, and maybe find different ways

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for them to make money, or for them
to consume fish of different sorts,

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it takes a long time to get in there.

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Having that threat of bycatch,
overfishing and weak enforcement and

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the lack of knowledge of the customs and
understanding of the ways of each local

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community, which are unique within each
ones, makes it very difficult to fish.

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Now, it's not just local communities
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There's a lot of larger corporations that
run boats that are sort of commercial

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type of trawlers or long liners and that
they just take the shark meat, cut it up.

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When they come in for
inspection, you won't see that

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the sharks you can't recognize.

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Sometimes it looks like tuna and
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It could be sharp, but you have no idea.

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So the fact is, is sharks are
declining because of fisheries.

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When you look at most of the estimates of
sharks dying, it's because of overfishing.

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It's because of weak enforcements.

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It's because of bycatch, and
sharks are critical top predators

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that regulate ecosystems.

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They regulate the food web.

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Their decline has cascading effects.

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So altering the food web and
destabilizing marine life is not a

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good thing for a marine ecosystem.

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The author Melissa Marquez, she draws
a direct line like inaction that doom.

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The vaquitas could also doom
sharks if we wait too long.

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So, for example, we covered a story
here on the podcast through Monga Bay.

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We had Monga Bay.

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Come on.

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We talked about a huge article
that actually made it to.

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Legislation like the
legislative body in Brazil.

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Not only schools but public sector.

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So nursing homes or older age
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call them, as well as prisons.

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Were buying shark meat to
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So, you know, not only is it not good
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it, because there's a lot of arsenic,
there's a lot of mercury within sharks.

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And so eating that on a regular
basis could harm their health.

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But it's also, there's no management
at con like what type of shark?

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we noticed that the article
identified there were angel sharks

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within there that are endangered.

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And so there were a lot of problems
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that were being caught and they
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being counted and they weren't being
monitored, and they weren't being

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regulated, and they could just get
any type of shark and that's gonna

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decrease the populations over time.

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Especially feeding all these public
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or that needs food and they're using
in the wrong kind of style of food.

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So here's the thing, there's
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So, you know, conservation often
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We're not going after it at the
beginning or understanding that there

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could be specific problems with this.

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We're not monitoring
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We're only monitoring on a reactive
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And then the article also warns
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tightened or enforcement strengthens.

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Populations may already be beyond
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So the Vaquita teaches us to be proactive.

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Early measures and not reactionary
ones are the only way to

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avoid irreversible losses.

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So getting out ahead of it.

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So looking at your coastline
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local community being like.

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What do we have in here?

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Let's just take an inventory of what
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of, what do we not see a lot of?

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And then do the management from there.

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Sometimes you can have local
scientists or you know, partner up

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with larger organizations or even
smaller ones to help you with that.

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And I think that's a really important one.

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And then the call to change is
governments and industries must invest in

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monitoring, regulation and enforcement.

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before sharks reach like the
vaquita, like levels of decline.

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So the public support, consumer choices
and pressure on decision makers are key.

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This is where you come in.

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If you like sharks.

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A lot of people do.

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We like watching shark documentaries.

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We like watching our shark movies
like shark, NATO and stuff like that

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because we like learning about sharks.

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We all want to know about sharks.

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It's something that we love to
hate, but we also love them as well.

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There's a lot more people who love sharks
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they don't know how to protect them.

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That goes to, even here in Canada,
you know, voting for people who

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will vote for pro-environment
type of ecosystem health, right?

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Whether they're a business
person, a lawyer, and economist.

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You have to talk to them about
what's important to you, and

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if the ocean's important.

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I don't care if you live in Ontario.

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I don't care if you live in the Midwest
and in the US or in England or in Ireland

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or Scotland or anywhere in Europe.

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If you live inland or along the coast,
the ocean is important to all of us,

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and it's important for those bodies
that are in charge of putting in

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regulations to be able to do that.

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'cause even if you live in a country where
there's a coast, I have three coasts.

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I have the longest coast in the world.

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Just because my MP is in Burlington,
Ontario, where I live doesn't mean that

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it's not important for them to know about
what's going on along the coastlines.

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That's very important.

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The story hits me, not only as a
marine biologist, but as a person.

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Like the Vaquita is not just
a porus, it's a warning sign.

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It's something that hits me
and be like, we could lose this

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species because of inaction.

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Right?

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Not taking the proper steps, not
saying, Hey, you know what, we

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need to actually do something.

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It's a conservation loss.

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It's a huge, huge loss, and I
want you to think of it this way.

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The ocean is like a safety net.

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Right, that it protects humanity.

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You know, it gives us food, oxygen.

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Every second breath goes to our breathing,
our oxygen levels, climate stability.

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Every time species like slips
through the cracks, the net weakens

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and the vaquitas near extinction
tells us that waiting is deadly.

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If we wait and we, you know, do inaction.

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It's not gonna help us.

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This is where it gets personal for you.

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If sharks collapse, seafood industries
change, you may like the change.

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You may not like the change.

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Coral reefs decline and coastal
communities lose natural

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protection because they don't
have coral reefs, right?

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It's not just about the
ocean like out there.

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It's about your dinner plate.

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It's about your beach vacation.

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It's about your storm protection.

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It's about your children's
inheritance of a stable planet.

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This is where it all counts.

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Having a loss like sharks or shark
species is going to be a terrible loss.

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Now, there are some organizations
and lots of researchers and lots of

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governments who are doing the right thing.

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If you look at the emergence of
great white sharks in certain areas

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or whales in other areas, we are
seeing conservation successes.

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The manatee down in South Florida was a
conservation success up until recently.

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Things ebb and flow, but action actually
helps putting together monitoring

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plans actually help putting species
on the endangered species list or

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on a list where they can't be traded
internationally helps protect them and

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to make sure that their stocks remain
stable or at least get to a point where

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they could be stable in and of itself.

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So the fate of the key
to, it's heartbreaking.

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There's no doubt about that, but
it's a story that can serve as a

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turning point if we actually listen.

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Sharks are the next test.

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We are seeing a huge decline.

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We can't just keep saying, Hey,
there are 200 million estimate,

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200 million sharks die every year.

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' cause eventually we're gonna run out.

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There's a tipping point.

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And if we wait until the numbers are
as low as the vaquita is, or we will

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act like, people are like, well,
how come there's not still time where

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people ask like, why didn't you do
anything when we had the time before?

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So this is a big step for us, like this
is the way you need to think about the

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ocean is don't wait till it's too late.

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Be proactive as a voter, as somebody
who lives in a democratic society.

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And you have that say with the
government, make sure there's regulation

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and make sure you support research.

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Make sure you speak to scientists who
are out there talking on a level like

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I am, or even bigger or even smaller.

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These are the people who see these
trends all the time and are out

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there trying to make you aware of the
good and the bad that's out there.

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So make sure you listen to them and
I think that's really important.

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So that's it for today's episode.

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I want it to be a little
bit of a quicker one.

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And I wanna thank you so much for
listening to this episode of How

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to Protect the Ocean If you want
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that goes right to my personal email.

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I'd be happy to chat with you from there.

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I wanna thank you so much for
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How to Protect the Ocean Podcast.

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I'm your host, Andrew Lewin.

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From the True Nord, strong and free.

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Have a great day.

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We'll talk to you next
time in Happy Conservation.