What’s Really Stopping You From Starting an Ocean Career

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What if the biggest thing that's holding

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you back isn't your experience?

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It's the fact that you're waiting for

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someone to teach you, to build skills,

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to build some type of

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experience that you need to get,

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you think you need to get to get a job.

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But here's the truth for most people.

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A lot of people working in ocean

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conservation right now didn't wait until

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they were quote unquote

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ready. They just started.

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This is the How to

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Protect the Ocean podcast,

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and career insight podcast.

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actually helps the ocean, hit

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So you don't miss any episodes we're

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doing this week. That

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was yesterday's episode.

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Today's tomorrow's

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Thursday's and Friday's today.

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We're talking about something that

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quietly stops more

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careers than anything else.

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Waiting for permission.

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There's this belief that's been baked

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into science careers and ocean

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conservation for decades.

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You need the degree first, then the job,

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then the experience.

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But that's not how it actually works

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anymore because employers, especially in

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conservation, are not

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just looking for credentials.

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They're looking for proof.

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Can you communicate science?

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Can you analyze science?

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And can you tell a

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story people care about?

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Because a degree tells

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someone what you've learned.

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But your work shows

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what you can actually do.

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And those are not the same thing.

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I've seen people with advanced degrees

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struggle to get traction.

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And I've seen people with no formal

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training build entire platforms,

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projects, and even careers.

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Because they showed up

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and created something real.

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Let's be honest here.

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There is a shift in how ocean

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conservation is being done.

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Whether it's science

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or even conservation.

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We are seeing that a lot of agencies, a

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lot of nonprofit organizations, even

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government departments and governments,

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they can't afford to pay everybody who

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wants to get into ocean conservation.

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Funding is limited and

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competition is getting real.

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It always has been, but it gets more and

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more every year as more people are

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getting degrees or more people are trying

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to get into ocean conservation.

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Now there have been a shift in how people

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are doing ocean conservation.

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Whether they're doing it on their own

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voluntarily, whether they get their own

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fundings through revenue generation or

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through grants or something else.

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They may have a degree, but they may not

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have a job like a 9 to 5 where they go

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with an organization or a government

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department or even a private consultant.

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They may just do it on their own and

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build their own thing.

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So when we talk about what skills matter

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or what actually matters, it's not just

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the title on your degree or your diploma.

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It's the skill set that you have.

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How can you contribute to a team or how

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can you contribute with your skills to

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science, to conservation?

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Things like communication can take

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complex ocean science

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and make people care.

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Data literacy. Can you work with

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information and draw insights? GIS and

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mapping, storytelling, which honestly is

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one of the most

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underrated skills in conservation.

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And understanding policy, how

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decisions actually get made.

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If you look at your own career or even

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mine, none of it came from just sitting

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in the classroom. For me, podcasts became

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the skill that open everything for me.

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Not because someone gave me permission,

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but because I kept showing up and I kept

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doing it. This is my 19th, 100th and

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third episode. Imagine that.

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19 hundred and three episodes and I am

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still moving strong. I did that and

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through that I was able to craft my

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message. I was able to

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look in how to communicate.

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I was able to build a network. I was able

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to have people understand how much work

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I've put into this. And on Friday, you're

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going to hear what podcasting has

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actually been able to

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let me do things. Right.

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And change the way I view my life from a

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work perspective or even from a like a

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personal growth perspective.

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Now here's where it gets interesting. You

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don't need to wait for a program to teach

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you the skills anymore. Everything is

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accessible. Now look, I know you're

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probably thinking like,

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we need a degree to be a marine

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biologist. Absolutely. You may even need

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a degree to be a communication person or

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like a certification at least. But

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everything is accessible these days.

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You've got online courses, YouTube

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tutorials, open data sets from

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organizations around the world, free

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tools for mapping analysis and

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communication. And one of the smartest

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things you could do, reverse engineer job

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descriptions. So go look at the jobs you

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want. Don't apply yet. Just study them.

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What skills keep showing up? What tools

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do they mention? That's your roadmap, not

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a degree, a roadmap. You get your degree

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through your schooling. That's how it

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works. Like you have to get your degree

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for some jobs. But all the other skills

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you can get while you're studying for

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that degree, even before your degree or

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during your degree and after your degree,

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you can always like you can always

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increase your skill set by

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doing what you want to do.

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You don't have to wait for permission

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from your work. You don't have to wait

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for permission from your parents. You can

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just go ahead and do what you think is

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necessary to get what you want. Right?

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That's what you really have to do. You

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know, when I want to get like

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communication experience, I couldn't find

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a job that would give me communication

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experience because I didn't have any

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communication experience of my own. So I

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built my own communication experience. I

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blogged, I vlogged and I even started a

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podcast. And that's what stuck for me. And it's gotten me to be able to do that.

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My group rock had me and it's gotten me

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job offers, it's gotten me projects, it's

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gotten me to a lot of places and you'll

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hear what happens on Friday with what

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it's gotten me recently when it's gotten

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here. Now, this is where

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people hesitate most, right?

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They think "I'll start at once, I know

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enough!" Right? That's the trap because

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the people who actually move forward

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start before they're ready, you're never

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ready to start a podcast.

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podcast. You're never ready to do science

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communication. You're never really ready

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to start a project on your own to take

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like ocean candidate, ocean networks,

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candidate data that's available for free

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and start processing it and making a

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project out of it. You're never really

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ready for it. You probably don't have the

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time etched out for it that you really

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realize you need. You may have some other

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priorities, but if you really want to

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build that skill set,

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you'll get it, right?

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You know, some of us like this, some of

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them have started a blog. They've

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launched a small social media account.

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They analyze a data set and share them

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where they will share what they find.

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They break down a research paper in

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simple terms. They don't wait to become

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the expert or even a guide to being an

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expert. They document the process of

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becoming one, right? That's what they're

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doing. That's the difference. Document

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don't wait because every piece of content

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you create is proof. Whether that's a

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data set or data analysis or statistics.

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Or that is, you know, communications or

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anything else you can think of. At the

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end of the day, a hiring manager has a

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choice. Two candidates. One says, I'm

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passionate about ocean conservation. The

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other says, here's what I've done. I

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blog, I project a series of posts, a

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podcast, a data analysis. Who do you

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think stands out? Your portfolio is

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louder than your resume. Every single

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time. One story that

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always keeps coming up is the

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first started podcasting. There was a

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gentleman that that I knew a friend of

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mine that that we didn't know each other

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before this, but contact me. He said,

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Hey, Andrew, I want to help you with your

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podcast and I want to write your show

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notes and you know, I want to write blogs

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and stuff like that. Do you want me to

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have? Do you need help? And I said, you

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know what? That's great. Because I've

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been thinking about going five days a

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week from one day a week, doing some solo

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episodes, but I can't do the show notes

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at the same time. Because I have a job

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and kids and all that kind of stuff. And

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he was like, perfect. It's a perfect

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opportunity to do that. So we've been doing a lot of things. We've been doing a lot of things. We've been doing a lot of things. We've been doing a lot of things. We've been doing a lot of things. We've been doing a lot of things. We've been doing a lot of things. We

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worked together for over a year. And when

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it came time for him to

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look for a job, he asked

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if he can use me as a reference because

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he's been working on this

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project forever. Not only

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did he write for me at, you know, every

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Friday we had ocean talk

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Friday and Nathan Johnson

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was on the podcast where he would pick

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like four or five

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stories and we would talk about

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those stories on a podcast. It was great.

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It was wonderful. We

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got to know each other.

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We built a relationship. This was all

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done over his job. We

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both had jobs and we both

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did it over his job, over our jobs. And

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when he went for a new job,

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he used me as a reference.

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And that reference called me and said,

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Hey, like, you know, why

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would, why should we hire

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Nathan essentially? And I said, you know

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what? I was like, he's been

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doing this apart from work.

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This isn't part of his job description.

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This is separate. He's

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been doing it for free

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just because he loves writing. He loves

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communicating. He

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loves the ocean. So if you

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don't hire him for the passion, like if

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you're not going to hire from skills,

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hire from his passion

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at the very least, because he's got the

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passion, the dedication to do

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the work. And now he's built

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this entire skill set and they hired him.

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partly due to the extra passion

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that he had. So take on that extra

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passion project, you know,

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do that side hustle, whatever

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that might be that has to do with the

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ocean if you want a job in

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ocean science and conservation.

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So if you're going to take anything from

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this episode, it's this.

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Stop waiting for permission.

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Pick one skill, just one and publish

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something within this week,

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right? Next, not next month,

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not when you feel ready this week because

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the people building

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careers in ocean conservation

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aren't waiting to be chosen. They're

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making themselves visible.

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And that's how you start.

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There are so many cases where I've seen

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people show up online, whether it be

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social media or whether

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it be through any other means, a blog or

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anything like that, where

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they've shown what they've been

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able to do. And people look to them as a

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resource. They look to them as someone

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who's like, I see this

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person would be good for this project or

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that project or this

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project, right? At the very least,

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like I know some of my friends who've

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gone on TV shows because

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they post so much with their

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ocean communication and sharing what the

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work they're doing. And

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that's how they get big. And

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that's how they get on these ships and

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these TV shows and all that kind of

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stuff, right? There's

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so many examples of this happening and

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don't want to miss out. I'm not saying

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that's going to happen

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for everybody, but you don't want to miss

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out because there's

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always opportunities that comes

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around the corner when you do this kind

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of stuff and you put yourself

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out there and you talk about

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the ocean, you talk about your passion

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and you just never know what's going to

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come your way. I would never have thought

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what I'm going to talk about Friday would

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have happened unless I had this podcast.

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So that's it for today's episode. If you

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have a question or a comment and you want

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to let me know if you want to talk to me,

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this is the beginning of a conversation.

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I'd love for you to continue it.

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You can comment on Spotify or you can hit

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me up on speak up for blue dot com

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forward slash feedback that speak up for

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love to hear from you. You can either

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leave a voicemail or you can write down

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And that's it for today's episode. And

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this has been the how to protect the

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ocean podcast. I'm your host, Andrew

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Lewin. Have a great day. We'll talk to

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you next time and happy conservation.