May 15, 2025

Orca Conservation, Shark Ethics, and David Attenborough’s Ocean Film

Orca Conservation, Shark Ethics, and David Attenborough’s Ocean Film

Orca conservation takes center stage as we highlight an inspiring community-led effort to protect these iconic marine mammals. Andrew explores how nearshore ocean heroes are driving real change, and why their stories matter more than ever. Learn how protecting your local waters can lead to healthier oceans worldwide—and why it’s time we recognize those leading the charge.

Shark encounters on social media spark a deeper discussion on wildlife ethics, as Andrew reacts to a TikTok video that demonstrates exactly what not to do. Wrapping up the episode is a look at David Attenborough’s new film “Ocean”, including an eye-opening sequence on bottom trawling and what it reveals about modern ocean challenges. Whether you’re an ocean lover or new to marine conservation, this episode offers compelling stories that educate and inspire.

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Transcript
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[Music]

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Back again for

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another episode

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of the How to

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Protect the Ocean

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podcast.

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I'm trying out

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again two weeks

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in a row,

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recording it

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before I go live,

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trying out this

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live Ecamm

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software.

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But bringing you

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content a little

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longer of a

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show today,

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we're going to be

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talking about

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ocean

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conservation

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stories,

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about orcas.

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We're going to be talking about

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what not to do

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with the shark by

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looking at a

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TikTok video that

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I found.

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we're going to be

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talking about the

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new movie by

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David

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Attenborough or

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starring David

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Attenborough

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called Ocean.

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Haven't seen the

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movie yet, but I

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want to cover

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some of the

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aspects of it,

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especially

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there's a

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trawling scene

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that I think

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people are a

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little

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surprised up.

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be interesting to

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go over that.

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So let's start

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the show.

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What's up

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everybody?

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Welcome back to

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another exciting

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episode of the

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How to Protect

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the Ocean

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podcast.

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I am your host,

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Andrew Lewin.

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This is the

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podcast where you

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find out what's

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happening with

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the ocean, how

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you can speak up

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for the ocean,

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and what you can

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do to live for a

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better ocean by

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taking action.

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episode, we're

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going to be

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talking about a

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lot of different

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things going on.

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Three different

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stories.

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talking about

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David

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Attenborough

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finishing off the

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episode with David

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Attenborough.

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what not to do

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with the shark by

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looking at a

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TikTok video.

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of those

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reaction videos.

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lot of TikToks

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that are just

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like, it's a little

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weird to do.

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know what people

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are

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thinking about.

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course, we're

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going to be

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talking starting

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off with, you

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know, an ocean

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conservation

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story.

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Here's the thing.

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I did an episode

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last episode

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about

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conservation

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stories,

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especially near

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shore

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conservation

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stories

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and identifying

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heroes that are

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conservation

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heroes.

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People who are

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leading the

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charge for

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conservation

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along the near

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shore, along the

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coastline.

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Angela

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Villagomez, Alia

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Haidyat, or from

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the center of

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ocean progress,

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or from the

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center of

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American

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progress, sorry,

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talking about

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ocean

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conservation,

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going from area

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based offshore

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conservation to

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near shore

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conservation.

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Something that

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kind of surprises

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a lot of people,

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but also is so

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near and dear to

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our hearts.

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Because as I said

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in the episode,

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when you look out

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from the

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coastline,

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whether you're on

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a lake or river,

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when you're on

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the coastline of

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an ocean,

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you look out into

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the water.

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clean water.

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You want to see

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maybe some

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wildlife

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out there.

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some waves.

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some habitats,

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seagrass, maybe a

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coral reef or

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fun to see

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something

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see anything that

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looks green, like

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related or

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that smells,

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or you can smell

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like sometimes

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you can smell

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like diesel,

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gasoline and sea

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oil slicks.

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see that.

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clean oceans.

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we need people to

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step up.

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on a lot of

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ocean heroes.

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on those

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community leaders

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that want to help

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us save our

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coastlines.

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going to be

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talking about one

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today, one story

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that I want to

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cover in this

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interesting

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talking about

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something that is

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an ocean hero as

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an individual.

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I'm going to be

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talking about

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that next

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Mondays episode,

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that will be with

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a local hero in

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the Maldives,

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looking to help

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with plastic

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pollution, single

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use plastic

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pollution and

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what she was

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able to do.

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talking about

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orcas in the San

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Washington state.

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talking about

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something, a

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community B whale

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wise guidelines

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that was led

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by whale watch

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captains,

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naturalists,

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conservationists

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from the San

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Juan County.

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going to be

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talking about

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some of the key

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outcomes and the

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conservation

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targets

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that they talked

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about. So here

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was the problem

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in the early two

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by the early

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2000s, the

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southern

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resident whale

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orca population.

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were declining in

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population due to

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a lack of food,

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which is

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an examine

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contaminants and

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of course, vessel

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noise

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distribution or

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disturbance.

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were the target

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of capture in

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1970s and they

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just never

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recovered. They

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lost about half

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01:04:04,875 --> 01:04:05,541
their population.

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01:04:05,958 --> 01:04:06,291
They haven't

307
01:04:06,291 --> 01:04:06,708
really fully

308
01:04:06,708 --> 01:04:07,375
recovered from

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01:04:07,375 --> 01:04:07,666
that. I think it

310
01:04:07,666 --> 01:04:08,083
was 60

311
01:04:08,083 --> 01:04:08,541
individuals.

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01:04:08,583 --> 01:04:09,000
So this is a

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01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:09,541
little less than

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01:04:09,541 --> 01:04:10,041
half their

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01:04:10,041 --> 01:04:10,625
population that

316
01:04:10,625 --> 01:04:10,916
went into

317
01:04:10,916 --> 01:04:11,416
captivity.

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01:04:12,125 --> 01:04:13,208
And since then,

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01:04:13,208 --> 01:04:13,500
they've never

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01:04:13,500 --> 01:04:13,750
really recovered

321
01:04:13,750 --> 01:04:15,000
and it's never

322
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:16,541
fun to be able to

323
01:04:16,541 --> 01:04:17,166
have to go

324
01:04:17,166 --> 01:04:17,583
through that.

325
01:04:18,041 --> 01:04:19,708
So that's what

326
01:04:19,708 --> 01:04:20,583
was going

327
01:04:20,583 --> 01:04:22,125
on in that.

328
01:04:22,375 --> 01:04:23,416
And we want to

329
01:04:23,416 --> 01:04:25,208
make sure that

330
01:04:25,208 --> 01:04:27,041
people know what

331
01:04:27,041 --> 01:04:27,916
happens to these

332
01:04:27,916 --> 01:04:28,708
animals, right?

333
01:04:28,958 --> 01:04:29,625
Down to only

334
01:04:29,625 --> 01:04:30,458
about 73

335
01:04:30,458 --> 01:04:31,166
individuals

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01:04:31,166 --> 01:04:32,166
by 2024.

337
01:04:32,458 --> 01:04:32,916
That was the last

338
01:04:32,916 --> 01:04:33,250
estimate

339
01:04:33,250 --> 01:04:33,958
that was taken.

340
01:04:34,333 --> 01:04:35,041
And then, you

341
01:04:35,041 --> 01:04:35,458
know, they're

342
01:04:35,458 --> 01:04:36,041
spending less

343
01:04:36,041 --> 01:04:37,833
time foraging,

344
01:04:37,833 --> 01:04:38,833
you know, they're

345
01:04:38,833 --> 01:04:39,750
spending less

346
01:04:39,750 --> 01:04:40,833
time foraging.

347
01:04:40,833 --> 01:04:41,291
They're spending

348
01:04:41,750 --> 01:04:43,500
more time trying

349
01:04:43,500 --> 01:04:45,875
to just be safe,

350
01:04:46,333 --> 01:04:47,125
you know, be safe

351
01:04:47,125 --> 01:04:48,333
and enjoy life.

352
01:04:48,791 --> 01:04:49,291
And that's

353
01:04:49,291 --> 01:04:50,208
really hard.

354
01:04:50,208 --> 01:04:50,750
So spending less

355
01:04:50,750 --> 01:04:51,333
time foraging

356
01:04:51,333 --> 01:04:51,958
successfully due

357
01:04:51,958 --> 01:04:53,375
to boat mascots,

358
01:04:53,625 --> 01:04:54,083
their eco

359
01:04:54,083 --> 01:04:55,083
location. They

360
01:04:55,083 --> 01:04:55,750
are a very

361
01:04:56,250 --> 01:04:58,166
pod friendly.

362
01:04:58,166 --> 01:04:58,791
They're very like

363
01:04:58,791 --> 01:05:00,000
close family knit

364
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:01,833
orca population.

365
01:05:02,375 --> 01:05:03,166
As many of the

366
01:05:03,166 --> 01:05:03,791
orcas are,

367
01:05:03,791 --> 01:05:04,541
they communicate.

368
01:05:04,541 --> 01:05:05,208
They use noise to

369
01:05:05,208 --> 01:05:05,958
communicate with

370
01:05:05,958 --> 01:05:07,000
whistles, clicks

371
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:07,375
and all

372
01:05:07,375 --> 01:05:07,833
that stuff.

373
01:05:08,458 --> 01:05:09,125
And that leads to

374
01:05:09,125 --> 01:05:09,833
missing feeding

375
01:05:09,833 --> 01:05:10,791
opportunities and

376
01:05:10,791 --> 01:05:11,416
miss deleting

377
01:05:11,416 --> 01:05:13,541
from like dangers

378
01:05:13,541 --> 01:05:14,416
around like ships

379
01:05:14,416 --> 01:05:14,708
or anything

380
01:05:14,708 --> 01:05:15,125
like that.

381
01:05:15,333 --> 01:05:15,916
So, you know,

382
01:05:15,916 --> 01:05:17,083
having that noise

383
01:05:17,083 --> 01:05:18,541
can really affect

384
01:05:18,541 --> 01:05:19,500
these this

385
01:05:19,500 --> 01:05:20,125
population. They

386
01:05:20,125 --> 01:05:20,958
feed together.

387
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:21,958
They communicate

388
01:05:21,958 --> 01:05:22,666
when they feed.

389
01:05:22,666 --> 01:05:23,041
They communicate

390
01:05:23,041 --> 01:05:23,458
when they do

391
01:05:23,458 --> 01:05:24,291
everything and

392
01:05:24,291 --> 01:05:25,041
not being able to

393
01:05:25,041 --> 01:05:25,541
communicate

394
01:05:25,541 --> 01:05:25,875
really

395
01:05:25,875 --> 01:05:26,583
harms them.

396
01:05:26,583 --> 01:05:27,416
So not having

397
01:05:28,500 --> 01:05:29,041
always having

398
01:05:29,041 --> 01:05:30,375
boat problems or

399
01:05:30,375 --> 01:05:31,333
boats around them

400
01:05:31,333 --> 01:05:32,333
that causes noise

401
01:05:32,333 --> 01:05:33,166
can really

402
01:05:33,166 --> 01:05:33,750
affect them.

403
01:05:34,208 --> 01:05:34,791
So let's look at

404
01:05:34,791 --> 01:05:35,250
the local

405
01:05:35,250 --> 01:05:35,916
context here.

406
01:05:35,916 --> 01:05:36,250
Let's look at the

407
01:05:36,250 --> 01:05:36,791
San Juan Islands

408
01:05:36,791 --> 01:05:37,583
are a hub for

409
01:05:37,583 --> 01:05:38,083
whale watching

410
01:05:38,083 --> 01:05:38,750
tourism actually

411
01:05:38,750 --> 01:05:39,291
going out to

412
01:05:39,291 --> 01:05:40,041
Vancouver in a

413
01:05:40,041 --> 01:05:40,500
little bit

414
01:05:40,958 --> 01:05:41,541
in a couple of

415
01:05:41,541 --> 01:05:42,166
weeks, hopefully

416
01:05:42,166 --> 01:05:43,000
going to do some

417
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:44,458
orca whale orca

418
01:05:44,458 --> 01:05:45,083
watching then.

419
01:05:45,125 --> 01:05:46,208
This industry

420
01:05:46,208 --> 01:05:47,166
provides major

421
01:05:47,166 --> 01:05:48,125
local income but

422
01:05:48,125 --> 01:05:49,000
poses risks

423
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:49,833
through noise

424
01:05:49,833 --> 01:05:51,000
pollution, too

425
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:51,416
close approaches

426
01:05:51,416 --> 01:05:53,041
and uncoordinated

427
01:05:53,041 --> 01:05:53,708
boat traffic,

428
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:54,458
especially when

429
01:05:54,458 --> 01:05:54,916
whales are

430
01:05:54,916 --> 01:05:55,250
present.

431
01:05:55,250 --> 01:05:55,666
Everybody gets

432
01:05:55,666 --> 01:05:56,083
excited.

433
01:05:56,083 --> 01:05:56,583
Everybody wants

434
01:05:56,583 --> 01:05:57,000
to see the

435
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:57,791
whales. If you're

436
01:05:57,791 --> 01:05:58,500
paying to go on a

437
01:05:58,500 --> 01:05:59,000
whale watching

438
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:00,083
ship, you want to

439
01:06:00,083 --> 01:06:00,500
see the whales

440
01:06:00,500 --> 01:06:00,708
when

441
01:06:00,708 --> 01:06:01,291
they're there.

442
01:06:01,291 --> 01:06:02,000
If you see orcas,

443
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:02,416
I want to see the

444
01:06:02,416 --> 01:06:02,833
orcas when

445
01:06:02,833 --> 01:06:03,250
they're there,

446
01:06:03,541 --> 01:06:04,083
but so are

447
01:06:04,083 --> 01:06:04,625
other boats.

448
01:06:04,625 --> 01:06:05,166
So you have to be

449
01:06:05,166 --> 01:06:05,833
mindful of other

450
01:06:05,833 --> 01:06:06,375
boats and you

451
01:06:06,375 --> 01:06:06,916
have to make sure

452
01:06:06,916 --> 01:06:07,333
that these

453
01:06:07,333 --> 01:06:08,041
animals are not

454
01:06:08,041 --> 01:06:09,083
being affected.

455
01:06:09,583 --> 01:06:09,916
Now, who are the

456
01:06:09,916 --> 01:06:10,541
local hearers in

457
01:06:10,541 --> 01:06:11,083
this situation?

458
01:06:11,500 --> 01:06:11,666
It's not

459
01:06:11,666 --> 01:06:12,000
necessarily an

460
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:12,625
individual. It's

461
01:06:12,625 --> 01:06:12,958
actually a

462
01:06:12,958 --> 01:06:13,458
collective of

463
01:06:13,458 --> 01:06:14,000
whale watching

464
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:14,250
operators.

465
01:06:14,958 --> 01:06:15,916
Naturalists and

466
01:06:15,916 --> 01:06:16,583
marine educators

467
01:06:16,583 --> 01:06:17,166
from the San

468
01:06:17,166 --> 01:06:17,958
Juan Islands

469
01:06:18,333 --> 01:06:19,041
decided to take

470
01:06:19,041 --> 01:06:19,541
responsibility

471
01:06:19,541 --> 01:06:20,500
for the problem

472
01:06:20,500 --> 01:06:21,416
within their own

473
01:06:21,416 --> 01:06:22,500
industry. Rather

474
01:06:22,500 --> 01:06:23,416
than wait for

475
01:06:23,416 --> 01:06:23,791
government

476
01:06:23,791 --> 01:06:24,291
mandates,

477
01:06:24,666 --> 01:06:25,250
they voluntarily

478
01:06:25,250 --> 01:06:26,458
developed a code

479
01:06:26,458 --> 01:06:27,333
of conduct. Now,

480
01:06:27,500 --> 01:06:28,041
waiting for

481
01:06:28,041 --> 01:06:28,416
government

482
01:06:28,416 --> 01:06:28,916
regulations

483
01:06:28,916 --> 01:06:29,666
mandates doesn't

484
01:06:29,666 --> 01:06:30,416
always happen.

485
01:06:31,083 --> 01:06:31,625
The wait can be

486
01:06:31,625 --> 01:06:32,500
very long. It

487
01:06:32,500 --> 01:06:33,125
could affect the

488
01:06:33,125 --> 01:06:33,833
whale population.

489
01:06:34,125 --> 01:06:34,625
So they decided

490
01:06:34,625 --> 01:06:35,166
to take it upon

491
01:06:35,166 --> 01:06:35,750
themselves since

492
01:06:35,750 --> 01:06:36,208
they are leading

493
01:06:36,208 --> 01:06:36,625
the charge

494
01:06:36,625 --> 01:06:37,625
anyway. And they

495
01:06:37,625 --> 01:06:37,875
said, you

496
01:06:37,875 --> 01:06:38,250
know what?

497
01:06:38,250 --> 01:06:39,041
We are going to

498
01:06:39,041 --> 01:06:39,750
put a voluntary

499
01:06:39,750 --> 01:06:40,916
code of conduct

500
01:06:40,916 --> 01:06:41,833
that we that

501
01:06:41,833 --> 01:06:42,083
we're going

502
01:06:42,083 --> 01:06:42,458
to develop

503
01:06:43,041 --> 01:06:43,833
together. They

504
01:06:43,833 --> 01:06:44,375
partnered with

505
01:06:44,375 --> 01:06:45,000
scientists, local

506
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:45,500
governments,

507
01:06:45,833 --> 01:06:47,916
Parks Canada, NOAA and

508
01:06:47,916 --> 01:06:48,708
Fisheries and

509
01:06:48,708 --> 01:06:49,000
Oceans

510
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:49,750
Canada, DFO

511
01:06:50,250 --> 01:06:51,333
for the federal

512
01:06:51,333 --> 01:06:52,125
government. So

513
01:06:52,125 --> 01:06:52,625
the key

514
01:06:52,625 --> 01:06:53,250
individuals of

515
01:06:53,250 --> 01:06:53,750
this group were

516
01:06:53,750 --> 01:06:54,416
the San Juan

517
01:06:54,416 --> 01:06:55,291
County Marine

518
01:06:55,291 --> 01:06:55,958
Resources

519
01:06:55,958 --> 01:06:56,416
Committee,

520
01:06:56,625 --> 01:06:57,125
the MRC,

521
01:06:57,750 --> 01:06:59,125
the Whale Museum

522
01:06:59,125 --> 01:06:59,708
from Friday

523
01:06:59,708 --> 01:07:00,916
Harbor, Sound

524
01:07:00,916 --> 01:07:01,833
Watch Boater

525
01:07:01,833 --> 01:07:02,583
Education

526
01:07:02,583 --> 01:07:03,500
Program, and the

527
01:07:03,500 --> 01:07:04,083
Pacific Whale

528
01:07:04,083 --> 01:07:04,541
Watch

529
01:07:04,541 --> 01:07:05,000
Association,

530
01:07:05,250 --> 01:07:06,041
the PWWA,

531
01:07:06,416 --> 01:07:06,958
the members of

532
01:07:06,958 --> 01:07:07,833
that association.

533
01:07:08,333 --> 01:07:09,000
So here was the

534
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:09,333
conservation

535
01:07:09,333 --> 01:07:10,041
action. So this

536
01:07:10,041 --> 01:07:10,583
guideline turned

537
01:07:10,583 --> 01:07:11,458
into the B

538
01:07:11,458 --> 01:07:11,916
Whale Wise

539
01:07:12,625 --> 01:07:13,375
guidelines. So it

540
01:07:13,375 --> 01:07:13,958
launched in the

541
01:07:13,958 --> 01:07:15,250
early 2000s and

542
01:07:15,250 --> 01:07:15,833
continually

543
01:07:15,833 --> 01:07:17,250
updated based on

544
01:07:17,250 --> 01:07:17,916
science and

545
01:07:17,916 --> 01:07:19,041
regulation. The

546
01:07:19,041 --> 01:07:19,500
campaign

547
01:07:19,500 --> 01:07:20,208
encourages

548
01:07:20,791 --> 01:07:21,375
voluntary and

549
01:07:21,375 --> 01:07:22,166
regulatory best

550
01:07:22,166 --> 01:07:23,208
practices for all

551
01:07:23,208 --> 01:07:24,416
vessels around

552
01:07:24,416 --> 01:07:25,333
whales, including

553
01:07:25,333 --> 01:07:27,291
staying 400 yards

554
01:07:27,291 --> 01:07:28,708
away from orcas,

555
01:07:29,333 --> 01:07:29,458
speed

556
01:07:29,458 --> 01:07:30,041
restrictions

557
01:07:30,041 --> 01:07:31,291
within 1,000

558
01:07:31,291 --> 01:07:32,541
yards, avoiding

559
01:07:32,541 --> 01:07:33,333
the path of

560
01:07:33,333 --> 01:07:34,375
whales as much as

561
01:07:34,375 --> 01:07:34,625
possible,

562
01:07:35,208 --> 01:07:36,375
turning off fish

563
01:07:36,375 --> 01:07:37,416
finders and eco

564
01:07:37,416 --> 01:07:38,083
sounders to

565
01:07:38,083 --> 01:07:39,916
reduce noise even

566
01:07:39,916 --> 01:07:40,875
further, using

567
01:07:40,875 --> 01:07:41,833
whale spotting

568
01:07:41,833 --> 01:07:43,000
networks to avoid

569
01:07:43,333 --> 01:07:43,708
accidental

570
01:07:43,708 --> 01:07:45,291
disturbances. And

571
01:07:45,291 --> 01:07:45,791
the guidelines

572
01:07:45,791 --> 01:07:46,333
were promoted

573
01:07:46,333 --> 01:07:47,041
through onboard

574
01:07:47,041 --> 01:07:47,958
education by

575
01:07:47,958 --> 01:07:49,041
naturalists. They

576
01:07:49,041 --> 01:07:50,208
were they were

577
01:07:50,208 --> 01:07:51,000
promoted by

578
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:51,541
outreach,

579
01:07:52,625 --> 01:07:53,208
promoted through

580
01:07:53,208 --> 01:07:54,333
outreach to

581
01:07:54,333 --> 01:07:55,000
private boaters

582
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:56,291
and kayakers and

583
01:07:56,291 --> 01:07:57,166
partnerships with

584
01:07:57,166 --> 01:07:57,708
marinas,

585
01:07:57,875 --> 01:07:59,250
ferry operators

586
01:07:59,250 --> 01:08:00,250
and dive

587
01:08:00,250 --> 01:08:00,750
companies. So

588
01:08:00,750 --> 01:08:01,083
you're probably

589
01:08:01,083 --> 01:08:01,625
wondering like,

590
01:08:01,625 --> 01:08:02,166
okay, this is a

591
01:08:02,166 --> 01:08:03,291
lot of action and

592
01:08:03,291 --> 01:08:03,708
it worked.

593
01:08:04,083 --> 01:08:04,916
Why did it work?

594
01:08:04,916 --> 01:08:05,166
Because there was

595
01:08:05,166 --> 01:08:05,666
industry

596
01:08:05,666 --> 01:08:06,125
leadership,

597
01:08:06,541 --> 01:08:07,125
right? Always the

598
01:08:07,125 --> 01:08:07,791
industry always

599
01:08:07,791 --> 01:08:08,750
has to help and

600
01:08:08,750 --> 01:08:09,791
make sure that

601
01:08:09,791 --> 01:08:10,708
things are good.

602
01:08:11,333 --> 01:08:11,625
Whale watching

603
01:08:11,625 --> 01:08:12,750
companies led the

604
01:08:12,750 --> 01:08:13,625
charge, reducing

605
01:08:13,625 --> 01:08:15,291
opposition and

606
01:08:15,291 --> 01:08:15,625
building

607
01:08:15,625 --> 01:08:16,333
credibility,

608
01:08:17,041 --> 01:08:17,291
community

609
01:08:17,291 --> 01:08:18,125
engagement, the

610
01:08:18,125 --> 01:08:19,250
local pride in

611
01:08:19,250 --> 01:08:20,291
the whales and

612
01:08:20,291 --> 01:08:21,041
marine ecosystems

613
01:08:21,041 --> 01:08:21,750
fostered

614
01:08:22,125 --> 01:08:23,000
cooperation from

615
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:23,458
boats and

616
01:08:23,458 --> 01:08:24,291
residences. If

617
01:08:24,291 --> 01:08:24,833
you've ever seen

618
01:08:24,833 --> 01:08:25,625
videos when

619
01:08:26,208 --> 01:08:27,250
orcas are found

620
01:08:27,250 --> 01:08:28,250
in an area,

621
01:08:29,166 --> 01:08:30,000
you'll see a lot

622
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:30,583
of people that

623
01:08:30,583 --> 01:08:31,458
are just posting

624
01:08:31,458 --> 01:08:31,916
it and they're

625
01:08:31,916 --> 01:08:32,625
actually going to

626
01:08:32,625 --> 01:08:33,000
see it. They're

627
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:33,625
taking time off

628
01:08:33,625 --> 01:08:34,166
of work.

629
01:08:34,166 --> 01:08:35,041
They're going out

630
01:08:35,041 --> 01:08:35,666
of their way,

631
01:08:35,666 --> 01:08:37,166
driving miles and

632
01:08:37,166 --> 01:08:38,750
kilometers to see

633
01:08:38,750 --> 01:08:39,750
these orcas. And

634
01:08:39,750 --> 01:08:40,500
when they do,

635
01:08:40,500 --> 01:08:41,041
they get

636
01:08:41,041 --> 01:08:41,875
emotional. There

637
01:08:41,875 --> 01:08:42,958
is a huge

638
01:08:43,416 --> 01:08:44,250
pride in the

639
01:08:44,250 --> 01:08:45,000
local community

640
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:46,000
to not only

641
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:46,458
protecting

642
01:08:46,458 --> 01:08:47,500
these orcas,

643
01:08:47,916 --> 01:08:48,583
but also making

644
01:08:48,583 --> 01:08:49,583
sure that they

645
01:08:49,583 --> 01:08:50,125
get to see them

646
01:08:50,125 --> 01:08:50,708
as much as

647
01:08:50,708 --> 01:08:51,416
possible and get

648
01:08:51,416 --> 01:08:52,041
to know them as

649
01:08:52,041 --> 01:08:52,583
much as possible.

650
01:08:52,708 --> 01:08:53,708
If you saw the

651
01:08:53,708 --> 01:08:54,708
interview I did

652
01:08:54,708 --> 01:08:55,416
with Mark Laron

653
01:08:55,416 --> 01:08:56,250
Young, you can

654
01:08:56,250 --> 01:08:57,125
see how emotional

655
01:08:57,125 --> 01:08:58,458
he got when he

656
01:08:58,458 --> 01:08:59,250
talked about

657
01:08:59,625 --> 01:09:00,666
these orcas and

658
01:09:00,666 --> 01:09:01,500
just their

659
01:09:01,500 --> 01:09:02,083
characteristics

660
01:09:02,083 --> 01:09:02,875
and what they've

661
01:09:02,875 --> 01:09:03,583
been able to do

662
01:09:03,791 --> 01:09:04,333
in front of

663
01:09:04,333 --> 01:09:04,916
people and how

664
01:09:04,916 --> 01:09:05,375
people have been

665
01:09:05,375 --> 01:09:05,750
able to catch

666
01:09:05,750 --> 01:09:06,333
them doing some

667
01:09:06,333 --> 01:09:06,958
pretty amazing

668
01:09:06,958 --> 01:09:07,791
things. So

669
01:09:07,791 --> 01:09:08,250
something to

670
01:09:08,250 --> 01:09:09,000
check out.

671
01:09:09,791 --> 01:09:10,583
They've also had,

672
01:09:10,583 --> 01:09:10,708
were

673
01:09:10,708 --> 01:09:11,208
science-based.

674
01:09:11,458 --> 01:09:12,000
That's why it

675
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:12,333
worked, these

676
01:09:12,333 --> 01:09:12,791
guidelines. The

677
01:09:12,791 --> 01:09:13,166
guidelines were

678
01:09:13,166 --> 01:09:13,583
rooted in

679
01:09:13,583 --> 01:09:14,083
acoustic and

680
01:09:14,083 --> 01:09:14,416
behavioral

681
01:09:14,416 --> 01:09:14,916
research

682
01:09:14,916 --> 01:09:15,791
on orcas.

683
01:09:16,250 --> 01:09:16,500
And then there's

684
01:09:16,500 --> 01:09:17,333
a cross-border

685
01:09:17,916 --> 01:09:18,625
coordination. You

686
01:09:18,625 --> 01:09:19,333
heard me say that

687
01:09:19,333 --> 01:09:20,375
there's fisheries

688
01:09:20,375 --> 01:09:21,000
notions Canada

689
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:21,500
was involved.

690
01:09:21,791 --> 01:09:22,166
NOAA was

691
01:09:22,166 --> 01:09:22,875
involved. Parks

692
01:09:22,875 --> 01:09:23,375
Canada was

693
01:09:23,375 --> 01:09:23,750
involved.

694
01:09:24,083 --> 01:09:24,458
So since the

695
01:09:24,458 --> 01:09:25,666
Salish Sea spans

696
01:09:25,666 --> 01:09:26,875
the US and

697
01:09:26,875 --> 01:09:27,541
Canadian waters,

698
01:09:30,333 --> 01:09:32,125
collaboration was

699
01:09:32,125 --> 01:09:33,666
key. So B Whale

700
01:09:33,666 --> 01:09:34,500
Wise became a

701
01:09:34,500 --> 01:09:35,125
bi-national

702
01:09:35,125 --> 01:09:35,875
initiative.

703
01:09:35,875 --> 01:09:36,291
That's a huge

704
01:09:36,291 --> 01:09:36,875
thing. That takes

705
01:09:36,875 --> 01:09:37,666
a long time to

706
01:09:37,666 --> 01:09:38,208
put together.

707
01:09:38,666 --> 01:09:39,166
And being able to

708
01:09:39,166 --> 01:09:39,791
put that together

709
01:09:39,791 --> 01:09:40,833
was really great

710
01:09:40,833 --> 01:09:41,958
for this. So the

711
01:09:41,958 --> 01:09:42,666
success is the

712
01:09:42,666 --> 01:09:43,083
SoundWatch

713
01:09:43,083 --> 01:09:43,458
program

714
01:09:43,458 --> 01:09:44,125
documented,

715
01:09:44,125 --> 01:09:44,916
reduce close

716
01:09:44,916 --> 01:09:45,875
approaches and

717
01:09:45,875 --> 01:09:46,333
increase

718
01:09:46,333 --> 01:09:46,791
compliance

719
01:09:47,250 --> 01:09:47,833
by commercial

720
01:09:47,833 --> 01:09:48,500
operators over

721
01:09:48,500 --> 01:09:49,000
the last 20

722
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:49,625
years. The

723
01:09:49,625 --> 01:09:50,250
initiative helped

724
01:09:50,250 --> 01:09:51,083
influence the US

725
01:09:51,083 --> 01:09:52,458
federal and Washington state

726
01:09:52,458 --> 01:09:53,125
legislation,

727
01:09:53,458 --> 01:09:53,708
including

728
01:09:54,041 --> 01:09:54,791
a mandatory

729
01:09:54,791 --> 01:09:55,833
400-yard buffer

730
01:09:55,833 --> 01:09:57,833
zones for boats

731
01:09:57,833 --> 01:09:59,625
and orcas in 2021

732
01:09:59,625 --> 01:10:00,625
and temporary

733
01:10:00,625 --> 01:10:01,750
closures of whale

734
01:10:01,750 --> 01:10:02,291
foraging

735
01:10:02,291 --> 01:10:03,125
areas during

736
01:10:03,541 --> 01:10:04,291
these times.

737
01:10:04,916 --> 01:10:05,333
Canada adopted

738
01:10:05,333 --> 01:10:06,208
similar laws for

739
01:10:06,208 --> 01:10:06,958
vessel distance

740
01:10:06,958 --> 01:10:07,875
and speed zones

741
01:10:07,875 --> 01:10:08,458
in British

742
01:10:08,458 --> 01:10:08,875
Columbian

743
01:10:08,875 --> 01:10:09,916
waters and

744
01:10:10,208 --> 01:10:11,000
tourists were

745
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:11,916
educated on board

746
01:10:11,916 --> 01:10:12,500
amplifying

747
01:10:12,500 --> 01:10:12,958
conservation

748
01:10:12,958 --> 01:10:14,250
messaging far

749
01:10:14,250 --> 01:10:14,666
beyond

750
01:10:14,666 --> 01:10:15,375
the region.

751
01:10:15,958 --> 01:10:17,125
This is a huge

752
01:10:17,125 --> 01:10:17,625
conservation

753
01:10:17,625 --> 01:10:18,541
success. There's

754
01:10:18,541 --> 01:10:18,916
only a certain

755
01:10:18,916 --> 01:10:19,416
amount of things

756
01:10:19,416 --> 01:10:20,500
you can do to

757
01:10:20,500 --> 01:10:20,833
help this

758
01:10:20,833 --> 01:10:21,333
population.

759
01:10:22,208 --> 01:10:22,666
And this is what

760
01:10:22,666 --> 01:10:23,500
they did. And it

761
01:10:23,500 --> 01:10:24,500
was industry led.

762
01:10:24,791 --> 01:10:25,291
It was science

763
01:10:25,291 --> 01:10:26,333
based. It was

764
01:10:26,333 --> 01:10:27,000
adopted.

765
01:10:27,375 --> 01:10:27,875
And then a lot of

766
01:10:27,875 --> 01:10:28,541
these measures

767
01:10:28,541 --> 01:10:29,500
were adopted by

768
01:10:29,500 --> 01:10:29,833
governments on

769
01:10:29,833 --> 01:10:31,125
both sides of the

770
01:10:31,125 --> 01:10:32,125
border. And that

771
01:10:32,125 --> 01:10:32,875
is cooperation.

772
01:10:33,166 --> 01:10:33,500
And again,

773
01:10:34,083 --> 01:10:34,875
industry led. It

774
01:10:34,875 --> 01:10:35,583
all started off

775
01:10:35,583 --> 01:10:35,875
with the

776
01:10:35,875 --> 01:10:36,166
industry. It all

777
01:10:36,166 --> 01:10:36,875
started off with

778
01:10:36,875 --> 01:10:38,041
the people. The

779
01:10:38,041 --> 01:10:38,541
government will

780
01:10:38,541 --> 01:10:39,458
follow what the

781
01:10:39,458 --> 01:10:39,833
people do.

782
01:10:39,833 --> 01:10:40,250
It may take them

783
01:10:40,250 --> 01:10:41,083
some time, but

784
01:10:41,083 --> 01:10:41,625
they will follow

785
01:10:41,625 --> 01:10:42,291
what the people

786
01:10:42,291 --> 01:10:43,000
want to do.

787
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:44,291
Here are some of

788
01:10:44,291 --> 01:10:44,666
the challenges

789
01:10:44,666 --> 01:10:45,208
because no

790
01:10:45,208 --> 01:10:45,916
project is

791
01:10:45,916 --> 01:10:46,958
perfect. Some of the

792
01:10:46,958 --> 01:10:48,125
challenges is private

793
01:10:48,125 --> 01:10:48,875
boater compliance

794
01:10:48,875 --> 01:10:49,625
remains

795
01:10:49,625 --> 01:10:50,500
inconsistent,

796
01:10:50,500 --> 01:10:51,250
especially during

797
01:10:51,250 --> 01:10:51,916
peak tourism

798
01:10:51,916 --> 01:10:52,458
months. This is

799
01:10:52,458 --> 01:10:52,958
going to be a

800
01:10:52,958 --> 01:10:53,500
long-term

801
01:10:53,500 --> 01:10:53,791
educational

802
01:10:53,791 --> 01:10:55,000
process that will

803
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:55,875
make sure that

804
01:10:55,875 --> 01:10:57,000
over the long

805
01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:58,083
term people will

806
01:10:58,083 --> 01:10:59,500
not only be

807
01:10:59,500 --> 01:11:00,000
compliant,

808
01:11:00,458 --> 01:11:01,166
but also be

809
01:11:01,166 --> 01:11:02,708
enforced by other

810
01:11:02,708 --> 01:11:03,000
community

811
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:03,666
members. That

812
01:11:03,666 --> 01:11:04,000
will be

813
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:04,375
interesting. And

814
01:11:04,375 --> 01:11:04,708
enforcement

815
01:11:04,708 --> 01:11:05,500
resources, speaking

816
01:11:05,500 --> 01:11:05,916
of which,

817
01:11:06,125 --> 01:11:06,750
are limited,

818
01:11:07,041 --> 01:11:07,791
especially across

819
01:11:07,791 --> 01:11:09,083
a wide marina

820
01:11:09,083 --> 01:11:10,083
area or marine

821
01:11:10,083 --> 01:11:10,791
area. So that's

822
01:11:10,791 --> 01:11:11,416
very difficult.

823
01:11:11,500 --> 01:11:12,291
But you have

824
01:11:12,291 --> 01:11:12,750
people in the

825
01:11:12,750 --> 01:11:13,375
water all the

826
01:11:13,375 --> 01:11:13,875
time. You have

827
01:11:13,875 --> 01:11:14,375
people who are

828
01:11:14,375 --> 01:11:14,708
friends with

829
01:11:14,708 --> 01:11:15,375
other boaters and

830
01:11:15,375 --> 01:11:15,916
they make sure

831
01:11:16,208 --> 01:11:17,250
that they will

832
01:11:17,250 --> 01:11:18,666
behave over time.

833
01:11:18,666 --> 01:11:19,208
And as long as

834
01:11:19,208 --> 01:11:19,875
this continued

835
01:11:19,875 --> 01:11:20,750
with this

836
01:11:20,750 --> 01:11:21,791
approach, we'll

837
01:11:21,791 --> 01:11:22,333
see better

838
01:11:22,333 --> 01:11:23,000
behavior,

839
01:11:23,250 --> 01:11:23,500
hopefully

840
01:11:23,500 --> 01:11:24,250
over time.

841
01:11:24,958 --> 01:11:25,333
Noise pollution

842
01:11:25,333 --> 01:11:26,083
from commercial

843
01:11:26,083 --> 01:11:26,958
shipping and

844
01:11:26,958 --> 01:11:28,083
ferries remains a

845
01:11:28,083 --> 01:11:28,708
problem beyond

846
01:11:28,708 --> 01:11:29,291
whale watching

847
01:11:29,291 --> 01:11:30,250
industry. Now,

848
01:11:30,250 --> 01:11:30,875
there have been

849
01:11:30,875 --> 01:11:31,583
some projects,

850
01:11:32,041 --> 01:11:32,541
some pilot

851
01:11:32,541 --> 01:11:33,250
studies really

852
01:11:33,250 --> 01:11:34,416
that have worked

853
01:11:34,416 --> 01:11:35,416
with shipping

854
01:11:35,416 --> 01:11:36,375
industries to

855
01:11:36,375 --> 01:11:37,041
reduce noise

856
01:11:37,041 --> 01:11:37,833
within the San

857
01:11:37,833 --> 01:11:38,208
Juan Islands

858
01:11:38,750 --> 01:11:39,916
and other places

859
01:11:39,916 --> 01:11:40,833
like within Puget

860
01:11:40,833 --> 01:11:41,833
Sound. And so

861
01:11:41,833 --> 01:11:42,791
that is still

862
01:11:42,791 --> 01:11:43,708
something that

863
01:11:43,708 --> 01:11:44,250
needs to be

864
01:11:44,250 --> 01:11:45,041
determined even

865
01:11:45,041 --> 01:11:45,666
more. So

866
01:11:46,125 --> 01:11:47,083
something that we

867
01:11:47,083 --> 01:11:48,208
want to keep a

868
01:11:48,208 --> 01:11:49,083
close eye on, we

869
01:11:49,083 --> 01:11:49,750
want to make sure

870
01:11:49,750 --> 01:11:50,375
that we are

871
01:11:50,375 --> 01:11:51,000
working with all

872
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:51,333
boaters,

873
01:11:51,333 --> 01:11:51,833
not just whale

874
01:11:51,833 --> 01:11:52,500
watching boats,

875
01:11:52,833 --> 01:11:53,500
but we want to

876
01:11:53,500 --> 01:11:53,916
work with all

877
01:11:53,916 --> 01:11:55,041
types of ships to

878
01:11:55,041 --> 01:11:55,375
make sure

879
01:11:55,375 --> 01:11:56,208
that we protect

880
01:11:56,458 --> 01:11:57,583
this very, very

881
01:11:57,583 --> 01:11:58,000
critically

882
01:11:58,000 --> 01:11:58,625
endangered

883
01:11:58,625 --> 01:12:00,416
population. So

884
01:12:00,416 --> 01:12:01,166
the legacy and

885
01:12:01,166 --> 01:12:01,750
the next steps

886
01:12:01,750 --> 01:12:02,083
for this

887
01:12:02,125 --> 01:12:02,625
conservation

888
01:12:02,625 --> 01:12:03,875
initiative and

889
01:12:03,875 --> 01:12:05,125
project, the B

890
01:12:05,125 --> 01:12:06,208
Whale Wise model

891
01:12:06,208 --> 01:12:07,458
is now studied as

892
01:12:07,458 --> 01:12:08,250
a template for

893
01:12:08,250 --> 01:12:08,791
community-led marine

894
01:12:08,791 --> 01:12:09,875
stewardship,

895
01:12:09,875 --> 01:12:10,500
which is great to

896
01:12:10,500 --> 01:12:11,583
see. The program

897
01:12:11,583 --> 01:12:12,333
continues to

898
01:12:12,333 --> 01:12:14,125
evolve with the

899
01:12:14,125 --> 01:12:14,750
input of

900
01:12:14,750 --> 01:12:16,000
scientists, indigenous

901
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:16,541
nations,

902
01:12:17,125 --> 01:12:17,916
and the tourism

903
01:12:17,916 --> 01:12:19,000
sector. And then

904
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:19,666
a growing number

905
01:12:19,666 --> 01:12:20,708
of kayak guides,

906
01:12:20,916 --> 01:12:21,041
drone

907
01:12:21,041 --> 01:12:21,916
operators, and

908
01:12:22,291 --> 01:12:23,000
paddle boarders

909
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:23,583
are also being

910
01:12:23,583 --> 01:12:24,875
brought into this

911
01:12:24,875 --> 01:12:26,041
fold. And the

912
01:12:26,041 --> 01:12:27,625
whale warning

913
01:12:27,833 --> 01:12:28,625
flying system

914
01:12:28,625 --> 01:12:29,416
introduced more

915
01:12:29,416 --> 01:12:30,625
recently alerts

916
01:12:30,625 --> 01:12:32,333
nearby vessels to

917
01:12:32,333 --> 01:12:34,250
whale presence in

918
01:12:34,250 --> 01:12:35,208
real time. So the

919
01:12:35,208 --> 01:12:36,041
takeaway of this

920
01:12:36,041 --> 01:12:36,708
story is it shows

921
01:12:36,708 --> 01:12:37,166
that local

922
01:12:37,166 --> 01:12:38,125
stewards within

923
01:12:38,125 --> 01:12:38,708
an industry

924
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:39,833
can recognize

925
01:12:39,833 --> 01:12:41,083
their impact, can

926
01:12:41,083 --> 01:12:41,875
mobilize their

927
01:12:41,875 --> 01:12:43,125
peers, and can

928
01:12:43,125 --> 01:12:43,791
drive behavior

929
01:12:43,791 --> 01:12:44,833
change that

930
01:12:44,833 --> 01:12:46,000
spreads to a

931
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:47,083
regional policy

932
01:12:47,083 --> 01:12:48,208
and political

933
01:12:48,208 --> 01:12:48,875
norms or

934
01:12:48,875 --> 01:12:49,458
public norms.

935
01:12:49,958 --> 01:12:50,458
This is something

936
01:12:50,458 --> 01:12:51,708
that it's a case

937
01:12:51,708 --> 01:12:52,375
of basically a

938
01:12:52,375 --> 01:12:53,291
voluntary action

939
01:12:53,291 --> 01:12:54,208
influencing legal

940
01:12:54,208 --> 01:12:56,208
frameworks and a

941
01:12:56,208 --> 01:12:56,791
small island

942
01:12:56,791 --> 01:12:57,166
communities

943
01:12:57,166 --> 01:12:58,166
protecting the

944
01:12:58,166 --> 01:12:58,916
giants of

945
01:12:58,916 --> 01:12:59,250
the sea.

946
01:12:59,625 --> 01:13:00,125
It can happen,

947
01:13:00,125 --> 01:13:00,791
folks. It can

948
01:13:00,791 --> 01:13:01,833
happen. And we

949
01:13:01,833 --> 01:13:02,375
are seeing it

950
01:13:02,375 --> 01:13:03,625
happen in front

951
01:13:03,625 --> 01:13:04,750
of our eyes. We

952
01:13:04,750 --> 01:13:05,583
know that this is

953
01:13:05,583 --> 01:13:06,208
something that

954
01:13:06,208 --> 01:13:07,250
needs to continue

955
01:13:07,250 --> 01:13:07,875
to be addressed,

956
01:13:08,166 --> 01:13:08,458
but it's

957
01:13:08,458 --> 01:13:09,166
something that we

958
01:13:09,166 --> 01:13:10,125
are going to look

959
01:13:10,125 --> 01:13:10,708
out for.

960
01:13:10,708 --> 01:13:11,125
And I want to

961
01:13:11,125 --> 01:13:11,958
make sure that we

962
01:13:11,958 --> 01:13:13,791
are documenting

963
01:13:13,791 --> 01:13:14,666
it, right? That's

964
01:13:14,666 --> 01:13:15,000
the biggest

965
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:15,958
thing. Okay,

966
01:13:16,125 --> 01:13:17,500
let's move on to

967
01:13:17,500 --> 01:13:18,583
the next story.

968
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:19,458
This one's going

969
01:13:19,458 --> 01:13:19,958
to be a quick

970
01:13:19,958 --> 01:13:21,791
one. I saw this

971
01:13:21,791 --> 01:13:22,625
on TikTok as I

972
01:13:22,625 --> 01:13:23,000
was scrolling

973
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:23,500
through and I was

974
01:13:23,500 --> 01:13:24,291
like, look, I was

975
01:13:24,291 --> 01:13:25,416
like, you know,

976
01:13:25,458 --> 01:13:26,750
when you're in

977
01:13:26,750 --> 01:13:27,416
the ocean, you've

978
01:13:27,416 --> 01:13:27,708
got to be

979
01:13:27,708 --> 01:13:28,458
responsible and

980
01:13:28,458 --> 01:13:28,916
you've got to be

981
01:13:28,916 --> 01:13:29,291
careful.

982
01:13:29,708 --> 01:13:30,541
There are a lot

983
01:13:30,541 --> 01:13:31,500
of videos of

984
01:13:31,500 --> 01:13:32,833
sharks out there

985
01:13:32,833 --> 01:13:33,125
that are

986
01:13:33,125 --> 01:13:34,000
beautiful videos

987
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:34,625
of sharks, people

988
01:13:34,625 --> 01:13:35,375
keeping their

989
01:13:35,375 --> 01:13:36,208
distance, seeing

990
01:13:36,208 --> 01:13:36,916
behaviors of

991
01:13:36,916 --> 01:13:38,000
sharks that are

992
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:38,958
non aggressive,

993
01:13:39,875 --> 01:13:40,708
might be avoiding

994
01:13:40,708 --> 01:13:41,166
sometimes

995
01:13:41,166 --> 01:13:41,625
swimming away.

996
01:13:41,625 --> 01:13:41,916
If they're

997
01:13:41,916 --> 01:13:42,416
swimming away,

998
01:13:42,416 --> 01:13:43,166
leave them alone.

999
01:13:43,541 --> 01:13:43,791
If they're

1000
01:13:43,791 --> 01:13:44,375
swimming towards

1001
01:13:44,375 --> 01:13:44,875
you, take

1002
01:13:44,875 --> 01:13:45,833
precautions and

1003
01:13:45,833 --> 01:13:46,500
so forth. This is

1004
01:13:46,500 --> 01:13:47,833
not for everybody

1005
01:13:47,833 --> 01:13:48,250
being

1006
01:13:48,250 --> 01:13:49,041
around a shark.

1007
01:13:49,041 --> 01:13:49,500
A lot of times

1008
01:13:49,500 --> 01:13:50,000
when you see

1009
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:50,666
people in videos,

1010
01:13:50,666 --> 01:13:50,916
they've been

1011
01:13:50,916 --> 01:13:52,166
around sharks for

1012
01:13:52,166 --> 01:13:53,125
a long time and

1013
01:13:53,125 --> 01:13:53,791
they know the

1014
01:13:53,791 --> 01:13:54,708
risks, but they

1015
01:13:54,708 --> 01:13:55,291
also know how to

1016
01:13:55,291 --> 01:13:56,000
behave around

1017
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:56,583
sharks in

1018
01:13:56,583 --> 01:13:57,500
different types

1019
01:13:57,500 --> 01:13:58,875
of behaviors that

1020
01:13:58,875 --> 01:13:59,500
they exhibit.

1021
01:13:59,500 --> 01:13:59,875
If they're more

1022
01:13:59,875 --> 01:14:00,333
aggressive, they

1023
01:14:00,333 --> 01:14:00,916
know what to do.

1024
01:14:01,125 --> 01:14:01,416
They're less

1025
01:14:01,416 --> 01:14:01,875
aggressive, they

1026
01:14:01,875 --> 01:14:02,250
know what to do

1027
01:14:02,250 --> 01:14:02,916
and they know not

1028
01:14:02,916 --> 01:14:03,708
to prod and poke

1029
01:14:03,708 --> 01:14:04,458
for most part.

1030
01:14:04,833 --> 01:14:05,500
So you have to be

1031
01:14:05,500 --> 01:14:06,208
careful if you're

1032
01:14:06,208 --> 01:14:06,958
not somebody

1033
01:14:06,958 --> 01:14:07,583
who's been around

1034
01:14:07,583 --> 01:14:08,083
sharks for a long

1035
01:14:08,083 --> 01:14:08,791
time to be

1036
01:14:08,791 --> 01:14:09,250
careful and just

1037
01:14:09,250 --> 01:14:10,041
stay away and

1038
01:14:10,041 --> 01:14:10,625
don't touch.

1039
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:11,708
Obviously, that's

1040
01:14:11,708 --> 01:14:12,208
something that

1041
01:14:12,208 --> 01:14:13,083
every scuba diver

1042
01:14:13,083 --> 01:14:13,916
knows everybody

1043
01:14:13,916 --> 01:14:14,416
should

1044
01:14:14,416 --> 01:14:15,416
know as well.

1045
01:14:15,708 --> 01:14:15,916
All right. I

1046
01:14:15,916 --> 01:14:17,000
wanted to just

1047
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:18,875
kind of look at a

1048
01:14:18,875 --> 01:14:19,750
video. There's no

1049
01:14:19,750 --> 01:14:20,166
sound on

1050
01:14:20,166 --> 01:14:20,666
this video.

1051
01:14:20,666 --> 01:14:21,250
Well, there's

1052
01:14:21,250 --> 01:14:22,000
probably music on

1053
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:22,375
it, but there's

1054
01:14:22,375 --> 01:14:23,458
no sound. It says

1055
01:14:23,458 --> 01:14:24,083
here shark

1056
01:14:24,083 --> 01:14:25,000
attacks jet ski.

1057
01:14:25,541 --> 01:14:26,291
And so when I see

1058
01:14:26,291 --> 01:14:27,708
this, I'm already

1059
01:14:27,708 --> 01:14:30,500
very curious of

1060
01:14:30,500 --> 01:14:30,916
what's

1061
01:14:30,916 --> 01:14:31,458
happening here.

1062
01:14:31,875 --> 01:14:32,708
Sharks just don't

1063
01:14:32,708 --> 01:14:33,916
go and attack jet

1064
01:14:33,916 --> 01:14:35,166
skis on its own.

1065
01:14:35,541 --> 01:14:37,000
Sharks will react

1066
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:37,208
to

1067
01:14:37,208 --> 01:14:37,791
certain things.

1068
01:14:38,500 --> 01:14:39,166
And when I saw

1069
01:14:39,166 --> 01:14:39,666
this, when I

1070
01:14:39,666 --> 01:14:40,041
initially saw

1071
01:14:40,041 --> 01:14:40,708
this, I was like,

1072
01:14:40,708 --> 01:14:41,541
I have a feeling

1073
01:14:41,541 --> 01:14:42,541
this is not a

1074
01:14:42,541 --> 01:14:43,875
shark attack or

1075
01:14:43,875 --> 01:14:44,458
shark event.

1076
01:14:44,916 --> 01:14:45,291
So let's just

1077
01:14:45,291 --> 01:14:46,041
take a look and

1078
01:14:46,041 --> 01:14:47,041
see what this is

1079
01:14:47,041 --> 01:14:47,666
all about.

1080
01:14:48,583 --> 01:14:49,375
And I want to I

1081
01:14:49,375 --> 01:14:49,791
want to kind of

1082
01:14:49,791 --> 01:14:50,416
talk about it

1083
01:14:50,416 --> 01:14:51,333
right after just

1084
01:14:51,333 --> 01:14:52,375
what not to do

1085
01:14:52,375 --> 01:14:53,000
around a shark.

1086
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:53,500
If you see a

1087
01:14:53,500 --> 01:14:54,083
shark in the

1088
01:14:54,083 --> 01:14:54,500
ocean, this is

1089
01:14:54,500 --> 01:14:55,000
obviously a very

1090
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:55,666
shallow area in

1091
01:14:55,666 --> 01:14:56,500
the ocean, very

1092
01:14:56,500 --> 01:14:57,083
clear water.

1093
01:14:57,541 --> 01:14:57,958
You can see that

1094
01:14:57,958 --> 01:14:58,541
this is a shark.

1095
01:14:58,750 --> 01:14:59,291
And here we go.

1096
01:15:00,875 --> 01:15:01,500
So he's got a jet

1097
01:15:01,500 --> 01:15:02,500
ski. He's in and

1098
01:15:02,500 --> 01:15:03,250
around the shark.

1099
01:15:03,250 --> 01:15:03,708
He's following

1100
01:15:03,708 --> 01:15:04,375
the shark sharks

1101
01:15:04,375 --> 01:15:04,625
trying to

1102
01:15:04,625 --> 01:15:05,125
get away.

1103
01:15:05,333 --> 01:15:05,916
It's pretty big

1104
01:15:05,916 --> 01:15:07,500
shark and it goes

1105
01:15:07,500 --> 01:15:09,125
after the boat or

1106
01:15:09,125 --> 01:15:09,750
it goes after the

1107
01:15:09,750 --> 01:15:10,500
jet ski and watch

1108
01:15:10,500 --> 01:15:11,083
it again.

1109
01:15:11,541 --> 01:15:12,250
Again, moving

1110
01:15:12,250 --> 01:15:13,333
away from the

1111
01:15:13,333 --> 01:15:14,500
ship or from the

1112
01:15:14,500 --> 01:15:15,083
jet ski

1113
01:15:15,083 --> 01:15:15,791
coming close.

1114
01:15:16,750 --> 01:15:16,958
Yeah, you're

1115
01:15:16,958 --> 01:15:17,458
annoying the

1116
01:15:17,458 --> 01:15:18,000
shark. Let's

1117
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:18,208
watch it

1118
01:15:18,208 --> 01:15:19,000
one more time.

1119
01:15:19,416 --> 01:15:20,208
You know, don't

1120
01:15:20,208 --> 01:15:21,125
annoy big sharks.

1121
01:15:21,416 --> 01:15:21,750
Don't annoy

1122
01:15:21,750 --> 01:15:22,708
sharks at all.

1123
01:15:22,750 --> 01:15:23,291
You're following

1124
01:15:23,291 --> 01:15:24,333
this with a loud

1125
01:15:24,333 --> 01:15:26,291
boat and people

1126
01:15:26,291 --> 01:15:28,208
just people don't

1127
01:15:28,208 --> 01:15:28,958
like jet skis.

1128
01:15:28,958 --> 01:15:29,458
And this shark

1129
01:15:29,458 --> 01:15:29,916
definitely

1130
01:15:29,916 --> 01:15:30,791
doesn't like the

1131
01:15:30,791 --> 01:15:31,666
jet ski. So I

1132
01:15:31,666 --> 01:15:32,041
want to share

1133
01:15:32,041 --> 01:15:32,625
that with you of

1134
01:15:32,625 --> 01:15:33,083
what not to

1135
01:15:33,083 --> 01:15:33,625
do sharks.

1136
01:15:33,625 --> 01:15:34,000
And that's not a

1137
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:34,500
shark attack.

1138
01:15:34,500 --> 01:15:34,958
This is a shark

1139
01:15:34,958 --> 01:15:35,833
defending itself

1140
01:15:35,833 --> 01:15:37,083
and just be

1141
01:15:37,083 --> 01:15:38,375
better around

1142
01:15:38,375 --> 01:15:39,208
around sharks.

1143
01:15:39,458 --> 01:15:39,875
That's really

1144
01:15:39,875 --> 01:15:41,000
what it comes

1145
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:41,666
down to is you

1146
01:15:41,666 --> 01:15:42,166
just you just

1147
01:15:42,166 --> 01:15:43,708
have to be better

1148
01:15:43,708 --> 01:15:44,916
and act better

1149
01:15:44,916 --> 01:15:45,916
and act more

1150
01:15:45,916 --> 01:15:47,166
responsible when

1151
01:15:47,166 --> 01:15:47,500
you're

1152
01:15:47,500 --> 01:15:48,250
around sharks.

1153
01:15:48,291 --> 01:15:49,583
OK, now we are

1154
01:15:49,583 --> 01:15:50,375
going to go into

1155
01:15:50,375 --> 01:15:51,000
I want to show

1156
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:51,833
the trailer. I

1157
01:15:51,833 --> 01:15:52,208
don't know if I

1158
01:15:52,208 --> 01:15:53,083
have the rights

1159
01:15:53,083 --> 01:15:53,708
to show the

1160
01:15:53,708 --> 01:15:54,125
trailer.

1161
01:15:54,125 --> 01:15:54,750
So hopefully they

1162
01:15:54,750 --> 01:15:55,250
don't take this

1163
01:15:55,250 --> 01:15:56,416
down. But I

1164
01:15:56,416 --> 01:15:57,083
wanted to show

1165
01:15:57,083 --> 01:15:57,541
part of the

1166
01:15:57,541 --> 01:15:58,416
trailer, at least

1167
01:15:58,416 --> 01:16:01,041
for the David,

1168
01:16:01,500 --> 01:16:01,750
the David

1169
01:16:01,750 --> 01:16:02,250
Attenborough

1170
01:16:02,250 --> 01:16:03,166
movie Ocean.

1171
01:16:03,166 --> 01:16:03,708
He turned ninety

1172
01:16:03,708 --> 01:16:04,541
nine this week.

1173
01:16:04,958 --> 01:16:05,375
So it's pretty

1174
01:16:05,375 --> 01:16:06,125
cool. So here we

1175
01:16:06,125 --> 01:16:06,625
go. We're going

1176
01:16:06,625 --> 01:16:07,416
to just kind of

1177
01:16:07,416 --> 01:16:08,583
talk about it.

1178
01:16:08,583 --> 01:16:08,958
We're going to

1179
01:16:08,958 --> 01:16:09,750
see what this is

1180
01:16:09,750 --> 01:16:12,791
all about. So

1181
01:16:12,791 --> 01:16:13,333
here I'm actually

1182
01:16:13,333 --> 01:16:13,750
not going to

1183
01:16:13,750 --> 01:16:14,125
allow the

1184
01:16:14,125 --> 01:16:14,625
sound plays.

1185
01:16:14,625 --> 01:16:15,083
I don't know if

1186
01:16:15,083 --> 01:16:15,500
I'm allowed to

1187
01:16:15,500 --> 01:16:16,208
play this, but

1188
01:16:16,208 --> 01:16:18,125
this is just the

1189
01:16:18,125 --> 01:16:18,750
trailer. You can

1190
01:16:18,750 --> 01:16:19,291
go see it. I'll

1191
01:16:19,291 --> 01:16:20,000
link to it in the

1192
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:20,500
show notes,

1193
01:16:20,750 --> 01:16:21,750
showing a lot of

1194
01:16:21,750 --> 01:16:22,625
beautiful images,

1195
01:16:22,875 --> 01:16:23,541
talking about

1196
01:16:23,541 --> 01:16:24,166
some of the

1197
01:16:24,166 --> 01:16:25,041
problems here.

1198
01:16:25,625 --> 01:16:25,916
And I'm going to

1199
01:16:25,916 --> 01:16:26,333
stop here because

1200
01:16:26,333 --> 01:16:26,833
I really don't

1201
01:16:26,833 --> 01:16:27,416
think I'm allowed

1202
01:16:27,416 --> 01:16:28,458
to play this, but

1203
01:16:28,458 --> 01:16:28,833
we'll see.

1204
01:16:29,083 --> 01:16:30,166
But anyway, what

1205
01:16:30,166 --> 01:16:31,625
this talks about

1206
01:16:31,625 --> 01:16:33,000
in this in the

1207
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:34,083
movie, a big part

1208
01:16:34,083 --> 01:16:35,083
of this come out

1209
01:16:35,083 --> 01:16:35,625
of the movie

1210
01:16:35,625 --> 01:16:36,416
because it was

1211
01:16:36,416 --> 01:16:37,041
originally aired

1212
01:16:37,041 --> 01:16:39,041
May 8 in the U.K.

1213
01:16:39,791 --> 01:16:41,250
Was really about

1214
01:16:41,250 --> 01:16:43,041
trolley. There

1215
01:16:43,041 --> 01:16:44,166
was a lot on on

1216
01:16:44,166 --> 01:16:44,666
trolley. There

1217
01:16:44,666 --> 01:16:45,166
was a there was

1218
01:16:45,166 --> 01:16:46,958
an incident or a

1219
01:16:46,958 --> 01:16:47,791
scene in the

1220
01:16:47,791 --> 01:16:49,000
movie where the

1221
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:50,625
troll shows it

1222
01:16:50,625 --> 01:16:50,916
actually

1223
01:16:50,916 --> 01:16:51,291
functioning.

1224
01:16:51,625 --> 01:16:51,958
And essentially,

1225
01:16:51,958 --> 01:16:52,708
if you don't know

1226
01:16:52,708 --> 01:16:53,750
what a troll is,

1227
01:16:54,500 --> 01:16:56,666
it is a net, a

1228
01:16:56,666 --> 01:16:58,000
huge net that has

1229
01:16:58,000 --> 01:16:59,208
an opening and

1230
01:16:59,208 --> 01:17:00,000
strings that are

1231
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:00,250
attached

1232
01:17:00,250 --> 01:17:00,875
to the boat.

1233
01:17:01,416 --> 01:17:02,000
And then when it

1234
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:02,833
is laid out, it's

1235
01:17:02,833 --> 01:17:03,500
got these boards

1236
01:17:03,500 --> 01:17:05,208
on the bottom and

1237
01:17:05,208 --> 01:17:06,166
those boards and

1238
01:17:06,166 --> 01:17:06,708
then a chain

1239
01:17:06,708 --> 01:17:07,416
along that is

1240
01:17:07,416 --> 01:17:08,000
attaching those

1241
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:08,583
boards and those

1242
01:17:08,583 --> 01:17:09,000
go along

1243
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:09,333
the bottom.

1244
01:17:09,375 --> 01:17:09,916
So when it gets

1245
01:17:09,916 --> 01:17:10,541
released, it goes

1246
01:17:10,541 --> 01:17:11,041
to the on the

1247
01:17:11,041 --> 01:17:12,041
bottom on the

1248
01:17:12,041 --> 01:17:12,916
ground, the sea

1249
01:17:12,916 --> 01:17:14,000
floor, usually in

1250
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:14,458
a shallow area,

1251
01:17:14,458 --> 01:17:15,000
sometimes in a

1252
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:15,583
deeper area.

1253
01:17:15,916 --> 01:17:16,083
And then

1254
01:17:16,083 --> 01:17:16,458
essentially what

1255
01:17:16,458 --> 01:17:17,041
happens is those

1256
01:17:17,041 --> 01:17:17,708
doors give it

1257
01:17:17,708 --> 01:17:18,208
weight, the

1258
01:17:18,208 --> 01:17:19,541
chain. And as the

1259
01:17:19,541 --> 01:17:20,125
boat moves, it

1260
01:17:20,125 --> 01:17:21,291
just scrapes

1261
01:17:21,291 --> 01:17:22,333
along the ocean

1262
01:17:22,333 --> 01:17:23,500
and the

1263
01:17:23,500 --> 01:17:24,000
ocean bottom.

1264
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:24,375
And it just

1265
01:17:24,375 --> 01:17:24,916
destroys

1266
01:17:24,916 --> 01:17:26,000
everything that's

1267
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:26,708
that's underneath

1268
01:17:26,708 --> 01:17:27,375
it or that's in

1269
01:17:27,375 --> 01:17:28,041
its pathway,

1270
01:17:28,416 --> 01:17:29,625
ideally bringing

1271
01:17:29,625 --> 01:17:31,083
fish into the net

1272
01:17:31,083 --> 01:17:31,791
and is catching

1273
01:17:31,791 --> 01:17:32,541
indiscriminately

1274
01:17:32,541 --> 01:17:34,041
fish or fish

1275
01:17:34,041 --> 01:17:34,666
indiscriminately.

1276
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:35,750
It can catch sea

1277
01:17:35,750 --> 01:17:36,458
turtles. It can

1278
01:17:36,458 --> 01:17:37,583
catch dolphins.

1279
01:17:37,833 --> 01:17:38,375
It can catch a

1280
01:17:38,375 --> 01:17:38,958
lot of things.

1281
01:17:39,958 --> 01:17:40,958
And we just you

1282
01:17:40,958 --> 01:17:41,416
know, you never

1283
01:17:41,416 --> 01:17:41,875
know what you're

1284
01:17:41,875 --> 01:17:42,333
going to catch.

1285
01:17:42,333 --> 01:17:42,625
There have been

1286
01:17:42,625 --> 01:17:43,291
sea lions in

1287
01:17:43,291 --> 01:17:43,625
there. There have

1288
01:17:43,625 --> 01:17:44,375
been sharks in

1289
01:17:44,375 --> 01:17:45,083
there, all

1290
01:17:45,083 --> 01:17:45,583
different sizes,

1291
01:17:45,666 --> 01:17:46,333
whale sharks,

1292
01:17:46,666 --> 01:17:47,041
depending on the

1293
01:17:47,041 --> 01:17:47,750
size of the net.

1294
01:17:48,333 --> 01:17:49,166
And then it

1295
01:17:49,166 --> 01:17:49,791
brings it up and

1296
01:17:49,791 --> 01:17:50,500
then people sift

1297
01:17:50,500 --> 01:17:51,000
through it and

1298
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:51,583
they get rid of

1299
01:17:51,583 --> 01:17:52,125
what they don't

1300
01:17:52,125 --> 01:17:52,708
want and what

1301
01:17:52,708 --> 01:17:53,000
they call

1302
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:53,541
bycatch.

1303
01:17:54,333 --> 01:17:55,041
And then they go

1304
01:17:55,041 --> 01:17:55,500
and then they

1305
01:17:55,500 --> 01:17:56,250
leave. They keep

1306
01:17:56,250 --> 01:17:56,625
whatever they

1307
01:17:56,625 --> 01:17:56,916
want and

1308
01:17:56,916 --> 01:17:57,208
they leave.

1309
01:17:57,250 --> 01:17:57,750
But a lot of

1310
01:17:57,750 --> 01:17:58,125
stuff that they

1311
01:17:58,125 --> 01:17:58,666
throw over the

1312
01:17:58,666 --> 01:17:59,583
bycatch end up

1313
01:17:59,583 --> 01:18:00,500
dying on either

1314
01:18:00,500 --> 01:18:01,166
on the way up,

1315
01:18:01,166 --> 01:18:01,625
depending on how

1316
01:18:01,625 --> 01:18:03,208
deep it is or as

1317
01:18:03,208 --> 01:18:03,875
they're just on

1318
01:18:03,875 --> 01:18:04,666
the getting

1319
01:18:04,666 --> 01:18:05,458
sifted through a

1320
01:18:05,458 --> 01:18:06,041
way to get sifted

1321
01:18:06,041 --> 01:18:06,416
through and

1322
01:18:06,416 --> 01:18:07,250
thrown overboard.

1323
01:18:07,583 --> 01:18:08,166
So it's very

1324
01:18:08,166 --> 01:18:08,541
destructive

1325
01:18:08,541 --> 01:18:09,333
fishing. It's

1326
01:18:09,333 --> 01:18:09,541
something

1327
01:18:09,541 --> 01:18:09,833
especially

1328
01:18:09,833 --> 01:18:10,500
in the UK.

1329
01:18:10,500 --> 01:18:11,083
They're trying to

1330
01:18:11,083 --> 01:18:11,750
get banned

1331
01:18:11,750 --> 01:18:12,875
because up until

1332
01:18:12,875 --> 01:18:13,333
recently,

1333
01:18:13,541 --> 01:18:13,875
trawling was

1334
01:18:13,875 --> 01:18:14,750
allowed in the

1335
01:18:14,750 --> 01:18:15,333
marine protected

1336
01:18:15,333 --> 01:18:15,791
areas, which

1337
01:18:15,791 --> 01:18:16,666
doesn't really

1338
01:18:16,666 --> 01:18:17,375
protect anything

1339
01:18:17,375 --> 01:18:18,208
in that area.

1340
01:18:18,208 --> 01:18:18,833
If you're trying

1341
01:18:18,833 --> 01:18:19,416
to destroy the

1342
01:18:19,416 --> 01:18:20,250
bottom, it will

1343
01:18:20,250 --> 01:18:20,833
take basically a

1344
01:18:20,833 --> 01:18:21,458
swath of couple

1345
01:18:21,458 --> 01:18:21,958
of kilometers.

1346
01:18:22,666 --> 01:18:24,625
That's maybe 20

1347
01:18:24,625 --> 01:18:25,708
feet wide, you

1348
01:18:25,708 --> 01:18:26,000
know, something

1349
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:27,333
like that. Nine,

1350
01:18:27,333 --> 01:18:28,333
nine meters wide,

1351
01:18:28,333 --> 01:18:28,833
maybe a little,

1352
01:18:28,833 --> 01:18:29,166
maybe a

1353
01:18:29,166 --> 01:18:29,583
little less.

1354
01:18:30,208 --> 01:18:31,166
And and it'll

1355
01:18:31,166 --> 01:18:31,625
just take these

1356
01:18:31,625 --> 01:18:32,541
strips out of the

1357
01:18:32,541 --> 01:18:32,916
habitat.

1358
01:18:32,916 --> 01:18:33,166
And if you

1359
01:18:33,166 --> 01:18:34,333
continue to trawl

1360
01:18:34,333 --> 01:18:34,916
over the same

1361
01:18:34,916 --> 01:18:35,958
habitat, you're

1362
01:18:35,958 --> 01:18:36,541
going to destroy

1363
01:18:36,541 --> 01:18:37,083
a lot of things.

1364
01:18:37,083 --> 01:18:37,375
It's not just

1365
01:18:37,375 --> 01:18:37,791
going to be one

1366
01:18:37,791 --> 01:18:38,416
pathway. It's

1367
01:18:38,416 --> 01:18:39,166
going to be a lot

1368
01:18:39,166 --> 01:18:39,625
of things.

1369
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:40,250
So that's

1370
01:18:40,250 --> 01:18:40,708
something that we

1371
01:18:40,708 --> 01:18:41,250
have to be

1372
01:18:41,250 --> 01:18:41,708
careful of.

1373
01:18:41,708 --> 01:18:42,208
And that really

1374
01:18:42,208 --> 01:18:43,416
what's

1375
01:18:43,416 --> 01:18:43,833
interesting about

1376
01:18:43,833 --> 01:18:44,541
the movie is it

1377
01:18:44,541 --> 01:18:45,916
showed exactly

1378
01:18:45,916 --> 01:18:46,333
what happened

1379
01:18:46,333 --> 01:18:47,291
during the trial.

1380
01:18:47,333 --> 01:18:48,500
It had, you know,

1381
01:18:48,500 --> 01:18:49,666
the opening and

1382
01:18:49,666 --> 01:18:50,125
showed it

1383
01:18:50,125 --> 01:18:50,958
in the water.

1384
01:18:50,958 --> 01:18:51,500
And then you saw

1385
01:18:51,500 --> 01:18:52,375
a trial actually

1386
01:18:52,375 --> 01:18:52,916
working.

1387
01:18:52,916 --> 01:18:53,250
We've talked

1388
01:18:53,250 --> 01:18:53,750
about trials

1389
01:18:53,750 --> 01:18:54,958
before, but this

1390
01:18:54,958 --> 01:18:55,541
is really one of

1391
01:18:55,541 --> 01:18:56,083
the first times

1392
01:18:56,083 --> 01:18:57,208
that people in a

1393
01:18:57,208 --> 01:18:57,791
large scale

1394
01:18:57,791 --> 01:18:58,250
audience have

1395
01:18:58,250 --> 01:19:00,416
seen this type of

1396
01:19:00,416 --> 01:19:01,208
of incident.

1397
01:19:01,750 --> 01:19:02,500
And people were

1398
01:19:02,500 --> 01:19:03,041
not happy.

1399
01:19:03,041 --> 01:19:03,375
It was very

1400
01:19:03,375 --> 01:19:03,916
emotional.

1401
01:19:04,458 --> 01:19:04,916
Obviously, David

1402
01:19:04,916 --> 01:19:05,541
Attenborough, Sir

1403
01:19:05,541 --> 01:19:05,708
David

1404
01:19:05,708 --> 01:19:07,000
Attenborough is a

1405
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:07,750
genius when it

1406
01:19:07,750 --> 01:19:08,125
comes to

1407
01:19:08,125 --> 01:19:08,791
communication,

1408
01:19:09,291 --> 01:19:10,458
really pulling at

1409
01:19:10,458 --> 01:19:11,000
the heartstrings

1410
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:12,166
when you see a

1411
01:19:12,166 --> 01:19:13,583
scene like this

1412
01:19:13,583 --> 01:19:14,416
and something

1413
01:19:14,416 --> 01:19:15,083
that nobody

1414
01:19:15,083 --> 01:19:15,916
wants to see.

1415
01:19:16,166 --> 01:19:16,916
So I thought it

1416
01:19:16,916 --> 01:19:17,291
was interesting

1417
01:19:17,291 --> 01:19:17,750
to share.

1418
01:19:18,458 --> 01:19:18,791
I will be

1419
01:19:18,791 --> 01:19:19,125
watching the

1420
01:19:19,125 --> 01:19:19,625
movie is coming

1421
01:19:19,625 --> 01:19:20,458
out in my local

1422
01:19:20,458 --> 01:19:21,291
area, Burlington,

1423
01:19:21,291 --> 01:19:22,500
Ontario on the

1424
01:19:22,500 --> 01:19:23,416
24th of May.

1425
01:19:23,416 --> 01:19:23,666
I'm hoping

1426
01:19:23,666 --> 01:19:24,625
to go see it.

1427
01:19:24,875 --> 01:19:25,333
I'd like to

1428
01:19:25,333 --> 01:19:25,875
go see it.

1429
01:19:26,583 --> 01:19:27,250
And I will do

1430
01:19:27,250 --> 01:19:28,750
more review on

1431
01:19:28,750 --> 01:19:29,458
the movie and

1432
01:19:29,458 --> 01:19:30,333
what I thought of

1433
01:19:30,333 --> 01:19:32,125
it when I when I

1434
01:19:32,125 --> 01:19:32,583
come back from

1435
01:19:32,583 --> 01:19:32,916
that movie.

1436
01:19:33,375 --> 01:19:34,375
So that's what we

1437
01:19:34,375 --> 01:19:35,625
have for today.

1438
01:19:35,625 --> 01:19:36,416
That's the story.

1439
01:19:37,208 --> 01:19:37,625
Wanted to just

1440
01:19:37,625 --> 01:19:38,666
kind of let that,

1441
01:19:38,666 --> 01:19:39,250
you know, let

1442
01:19:39,250 --> 01:19:41,333
that sink in and

1443
01:19:41,333 --> 01:19:42,000
hope you get to

1444
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:42,458
see the movie.

1445
01:19:42,458 --> 01:19:42,750
You've seen

1446
01:19:42,750 --> 01:19:43,291
the movie.

1447
01:19:43,291 --> 01:19:43,875
Let me know.

1448
01:19:43,875 --> 01:19:44,458
Leave a comment

1449
01:19:44,458 --> 01:19:46,083
in the in the

1450
01:19:46,083 --> 01:19:46,791
YouTube or leave

1451
01:19:46,791 --> 01:19:47,291
a comment if

1452
01:19:47,291 --> 01:19:47,500
you're watching

1453
01:19:47,500 --> 01:19:48,083
this on YouTube

1454
01:19:48,083 --> 01:19:48,875
down below.

1455
01:19:49,250 --> 01:19:49,541
And if you

1456
01:19:49,541 --> 01:19:51,208
haven't left a

1457
01:19:51,208 --> 01:19:51,750
comment before

1458
01:19:51,750 --> 01:19:52,166
you want to

1459
01:19:52,166 --> 01:19:53,000
contact me, you

1460
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:53,666
can hit me up on

1461
01:19:53,666 --> 01:19:54,916
Instagram at how

1462
01:19:54,916 --> 01:19:55,333
to protect

1463
01:19:55,333 --> 01:19:55,708
the ocean.

1464
01:19:55,750 --> 01:19:56,958
That's at how to

1465
01:19:56,958 --> 01:19:57,166
protect

1466
01:19:57,166 --> 01:19:57,583
the ocean.

1467
01:19:57,958 --> 01:19:58,500
And that's it for

1468
01:19:58,500 --> 01:19:59,291
today's episode.

1469
01:19:59,291 --> 01:19:59,500
I really

1470
01:19:59,500 --> 01:20:00,041
appreciate you

1471
01:20:00,041 --> 01:20:00,708
watching.

1472
01:20:01,208 --> 01:20:01,500
Let me know what

1473
01:20:01,500 --> 01:20:02,500
you think of this

1474
01:20:02,500 --> 01:20:03,250
type of episode,

1475
01:20:03,250 --> 01:20:03,916
this format.

1476
01:20:03,916 --> 01:20:04,166
I'm going to be

1477
01:20:04,166 --> 01:20:04,791
going live.

1478
01:20:05,166 --> 01:20:05,916
Assume I'm just

1479
01:20:05,916 --> 01:20:06,583
practicing how to

1480
01:20:06,583 --> 01:20:07,125
use this.

1481
01:20:07,125 --> 01:20:07,500
I got to practice

1482
01:20:07,500 --> 01:20:08,291
how to go live.

1483
01:20:08,708 --> 01:20:09,833
So bear with me.

1484
01:20:10,083 --> 01:20:10,541
Trying to get

1485
01:20:10,541 --> 01:20:11,166
comfortable with

1486
01:20:11,166 --> 01:20:11,625
this, trying to

1487
01:20:11,625 --> 01:20:12,416
bring you more

1488
01:20:12,416 --> 01:20:13,750
science

1489
01:20:13,750 --> 01:20:15,000
information and

1490
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:15,500
more science

1491
01:20:15,500 --> 01:20:17,291
stories more

1492
01:20:17,291 --> 01:20:18,166
often, especially

1493
01:20:18,166 --> 01:20:18,666
on YouTube.

1494
01:20:18,958 --> 01:20:19,458
So I want to

1495
01:20:19,458 --> 01:20:20,000
thank you so much

1496
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:20,625
for joining me on

1497
01:20:20,625 --> 01:20:21,166
today's episode

1498
01:20:21,166 --> 01:20:21,708
of the How to

1499
01:20:21,708 --> 01:20:22,166
Protect the Ocean

1500
01:20:22,166 --> 01:20:22,625
podcast.

1501
01:20:22,625 --> 01:20:23,208
I'm your host,

1502
01:20:23,208 --> 01:20:23,833
Angelou, from the

1503
01:20:23,833 --> 01:20:24,375
True North strong

1504
01:20:24,375 --> 01:20:24,791
and free.

1505
01:20:25,083 --> 01:20:25,875
Have a great day.

1506
01:20:25,875 --> 01:20:26,291
We'll talk to you

1507
01:20:26,291 --> 01:20:27,166
next time and

1508
01:20:27,166 --> 01:20:27,416
happy

1509
01:20:27,416 --> 01:20:28,000
conservation.