June 19, 2025
UN Ocean Conference 2025: Big Promises, Global Funding, and the Push for Ocean Protection
UNOC 2025 brought major headlines in ocean conservation—from billions pledged to protect biodiversity, to significant movement on the High Seas Treaty. In this episode, Andrew Lewin returns from the UN Ocean Conference in Nice, France, with a firsthand account of what was announced, what was promised, and what might actually happen.
Ocean finance was a hot topic this year. Governments, development banks, and private investors pledged record-breaking funding to tackle everything from plastic pollution to marine ecosystem restoration. But Andrew dives into why these billions still fall short—and which key ocean players stepped up (and who didn’t).
High Seas Treaty ratification took center stage, with 18 new countries signing on and momentum building fast. The episode also breaks down 30x30 targets, new marine protected areas—including a massive one in French Polynesia—and growing global support for a deep-sea mining moratorium. Andrew adds his personal observations and concerns about whether this enthusiasm will translate into real protection for the ocean.
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I am back from
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the UN Oceans
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Conference in
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Nice, France.
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Beautiful
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country, a lot of
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stuff announced,
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including a lot
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of money that was
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made for ocean
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conservation,
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but not enough to
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really protect
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the ocean. Quite
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a bit shy.
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We're also going
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to talk about a
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lot of
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announcements
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that were made in
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terms of high
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seas treaty,
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in terms of the
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global plastic
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pollution
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treaties and the
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commitments
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for that,
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as well as marine
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protected areas
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announcements.
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So we're going to
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talk all about
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that on today's
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episode of the
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How to Protect
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the Ocean
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podcast.
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Let's
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start the show.
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Hey everybody,
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welcome back to
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another exciting
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episode of the
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How to Protect
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the Ocean
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podcast.
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I'm your host,
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Andrew Lewin.
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This is the
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podcast where you
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find out what's
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happening with
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the ocean,
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how you could
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speak up for the
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ocean, what you
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can do to live
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for a better
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ocean by
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taking action.
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On today's
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episode, we're
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going to be
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talking about my
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trip to Nice,
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France, not my
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20th anniversary
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that I celebrated
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in these France
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with my wonderful
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wife, but we're
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going to be
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talking
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about the UN
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Conference, which
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is one of the
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went to Nice for,
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not only spend a
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wonderful
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time with my
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to the
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conference, see
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what's happening,
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connect with
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friends, connect
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with colleagues
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and meet new
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people and new
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friends at these
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conferences,
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which I
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love to do.
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just right off
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the bat, I'm
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from the
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conferences that
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I normally go to.
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there's science
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conferences that
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this had a
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science component
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that was done the
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week before I
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went. I went from
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the 11th to the
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15th. This lasted
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the second to the
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13th, but there
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was a lot of
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stuff that
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was said.
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of stuff done and
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it was a little
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bit different in
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terms that
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when you go
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to a conference
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that I normally
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go to, it's at
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one hotel. Either
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you stay in that
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hotel or you
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from a different
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and you spend
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most of the time
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in different
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rooms and
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sessions and
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workshops,
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people,
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connecting with
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individuals
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and friends
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and colleagues
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and so forth,
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maybe potentially
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collaborating on
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new projects. And
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when you talk
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with that and you
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network, this was
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different, not
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the networking
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part. There was a
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lot of that, but
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the way
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everything was
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dispersed across
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the city, it was
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a little bit
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hectic. There
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was a blue zone,
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which all the
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delegations were
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there, like all
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the government
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delegations and
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were done, which
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in just a sec.
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zone, which was
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open to the
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public. This has
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never happened
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before. This is
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time this
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conference is
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in Barcelona. So
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that they
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opened it
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to the public.
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for kids. We
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could talk about
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startups. We
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talked about
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fishing. We
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talked about
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everything. There
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presentations
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going around, but
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cool. Show some B
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the pictures and
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videos that I
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nice is
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gorgeous. There's
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there to remind
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you to connect to
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the water. I got
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to jump in the
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water with my
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friend Angela
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Villa Gomez and a
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in the morning
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session for the
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undertow that I
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co-founded
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pretty hectic to
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run around and it
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if you're wearing
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conference
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attire, it was
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that I'm going to
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interject as I
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were very
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say to you, take
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it with a grain
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of salt. There's
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that sounds
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really great, but
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don't hold your
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breath. A lot of
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what I've learned
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from a lot of
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announcements by
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governments and
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different NGOs
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and stuff like
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that is like, I
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will believe it
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when I see it.
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I'm going to say
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there, but it is
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in a positive
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direction, which
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is great. So
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we're going to
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I'm going to run
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through it pretty
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quickly. There
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financial
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commitments,
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including 3
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billion euros
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from the European
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Investment
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Bank. And
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the European Asian Development
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Bank to tackle
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ocean plastic
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pollution through
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2030, which is
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great. Not much
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detail in that,
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but that was
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great
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announcement. 2.5
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billion US from
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the US Bank of
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Latin America and
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Caribbean CAF for
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sustainable
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marine
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investments from
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2025 to 2030.
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There's a 119
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million euro via
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World Bank for
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climate
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resilience in
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Guinea's coasts.
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There is 2
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million euro for
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Mediterranean
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ecosystems in
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North Africa and
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1.8 million euro
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to reinforce
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marine protected
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areas in Costa
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Rica and in the
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Mediterranean.
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Which is great.
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And then we saw
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private
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investments when
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capital raised
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160 million euro
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towards the Swen
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Blue Ocean 2 fund
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targeted 300
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million euro for
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biodiversity
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focused startups,
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which is great to
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see. And then of
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course, bird life
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and philanthropic
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public investors
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committed to 8.7
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billion euro over
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5 years for ocean
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conservation.
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Now, if I say
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this, despite
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that influx,
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which was great
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to see, it still
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falls short of
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the estimated 175
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billion dollars
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that are needed
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annually to
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protect the ocean.
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So that's the
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financial
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investments.
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Again, I'll
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believe that when
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I see all those
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investments be
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spent and all
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those projects
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come through, not
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all them will be
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successes, but at
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least there's
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money going into
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those projects.
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And for the high
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seas, the treaty
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advances. So the
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high seas treaty
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needs to be
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ratified. They
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need 60 countries
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to ratify those.
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At the end of
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this conference,
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there were 50.
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They added 12
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countries,
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bringing a total
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to 50. Just 10
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short of the 60
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needed to bring
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the high seas
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treaty into
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force. India did
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pledge to ratify
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soon, reinforcing
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the movement or
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momentum of the treaty.
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So they're going to be able to
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move forward with
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that. Once the 60
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are reached,
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there will be 120
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day countdown to
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an enactment with
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COP 1 scheduled
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within a year
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after that. The
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new marine
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protected areas
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and 30 by 30
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progress, the
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niece declaration
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of reaffirmed
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support for 30 by
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30. The target
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marking progress
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from 8% over 10%
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ocean protection.
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France, Costa
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Rica, Cabo Verde
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and others
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announced new
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marine protected
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areas including
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French
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Polynesians, 5
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million dollars
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square kilometer
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sanctuary. The
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world's largest
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MPA when I say
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this though, take
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it with a grain
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of salt. Some of
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these MPAs still
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allow fishing
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activities like
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trawling into it.
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The movie ocean,
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which I reviewed
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last week, really
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played an
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important role in
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the discussion of
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banning trawling
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within marine
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protected areas.
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That was brought
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up a number of
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times throughout
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UNOC, the United
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Nations Ocean
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Conference. And
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that was the
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purpose of the
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movie. It
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actually mentions
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the United
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Nations Ocean
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Conference at the
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end of that movie
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and the credits
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before the
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credits run. And
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so that was a big
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topic of
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discussion within
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that. I don't
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know what the
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announcements
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were around that.
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But the pressure
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was put on,
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especially on the
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UK for allowing
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that to happen.
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Deep sea mining
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caution. So a
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growing coalition
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of 37 countries
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called for
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moratorium on
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deep sea mining.
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Advocating a
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precautionary
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halt, pending
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better science
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and governance.
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French and
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international
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leaders
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underscore the
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need to pause on
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seabed mining. Because
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essentially we
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don't know a lot
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about the seabed.
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I think we've
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mapped 25% of the
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seabed. We still
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have a lot more
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to do. And we
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just don't know
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what we're gonna
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screw up. And
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we're really good
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at screwing
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things up. So
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that's something
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that we have to
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be careful of.
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Combating
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plastics and
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ghost gear. So
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the Declaration
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urges against
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plastic pollution
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and ghost gear
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pushing the
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fisheries and
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agricultural
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organization and
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other
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organizations to
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ramp up efforts
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to clean those
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up. Countries
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like Australia
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recommitted to a
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global plastic
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treaty, which was
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gone through the
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process over the
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last year and a
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half. We've
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covered it on the
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podcast here. It
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didn't come out
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great. I'm not
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sure we'll have
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to cover where
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the plastic
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treaty is now,
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but they've done
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all their
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meetings. And I
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don't know if it
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was actually
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agreed upon.
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We'll have to
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talk about that
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soon. Confirm
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support for the
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high seas
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protection
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Australia.
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And vowed to ban
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bottom trawling
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in 30% of its
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waters by 2030,
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which I assume
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that will be
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marine protected
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areas given the
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30 by 30 target.
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Improving ocean
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governance and
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finance. So
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investors voice
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concerns that
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unclear
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regulations and
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weak ocean data
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are limiting the
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private sector
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involvement. Take
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that with a grain
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of salt, because
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usually it's the
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private investors
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and private
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sector that are
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causing a lot of
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the problems. I'd
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love to see more
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investment from
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the private
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sector and
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getting them to
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help clear up
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these
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regulations. But
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a lot of times
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it's usually
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private sector
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that's working
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against the
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private sector.
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And so that's an
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interesting
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comment by some
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of the people who
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were talking
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about these are
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the big
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announcements.
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These investors
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call for stronger
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governance, which
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is absolutely
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needed subsidy
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reform, which is
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absolutely needed
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a lot of
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subsidies in
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terms of money
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goes towards
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fishing subsidies
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and more
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transparent
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frameworks to
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mobilize private
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capital. Now,
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just to go back
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to the subsidies.
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What I meant by
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fishing subsidies
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is giving it to
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the big
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industries, not
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the artisanal
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fishers. It's the
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big industries
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that usually get
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a lot of the
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subsidies and
646
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usually are the
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biggest problems.
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So now the NICE
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ocean action plan
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includes a
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political
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declaration and
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over 800 plus
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voluntary
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commitments from
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governments, UN
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agencies,
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scientists and
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NGOs, UN
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secretary
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general, I think
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that's how you
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pronounce the
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name, stress the
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shift from a
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plunder to
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protection, which
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is obvious. We
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need that shift.
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Urging world
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leaders to
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protect at least
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30% of their
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oceans by 2030.
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Will that happen?
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It doesn't look
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like it's likely. I'm hopeful that it will get close. Hopefully
there'll be a big push. But will we worry about that?
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It's not going to
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be a paper MPa,
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it's got to be a
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proper MPa. It's
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got to work. It's
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got to be
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enforced. It's
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got to be managed
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properly. It's
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got to be done
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well. So bottom
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line is the nice
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conference achieve major boosts in financing, conservation targets and 3d progress.
But funding is not going to help. It's got to be a way to deal with the
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achieve major
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boosts in
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financing,
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conservation targets, and
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treaty progress,
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but funding gaps
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still remain,
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and the
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scientists warned
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that the
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political
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decoration
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doesn't fully
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address damaging
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practices
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like harmful
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fishing,
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underwater noise,
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and the climate
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role of marine
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species.
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Still, global
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ambition is
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stronger,
715
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and with the high
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seas treaty
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nearing
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ratification,
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the world may
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finally
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00:09:01,375 --> 00:09:01,875
be heading
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toward legally
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binding
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international
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ocean protection,
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which would be
727
00:09:05,375 --> 00:09:06,000
nice to see.
728
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I just don't know
729
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if that's
730
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gonna happen.
731
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So we're gonna
732
00:09:08,875 --> 00:09:09,708
have to see if
733
00:09:09,708 --> 00:09:10,000
that happens,
734
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but the biggest
735
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thing that you
736
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could do
737
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is talk to your
738
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government
739
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representative
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to say how
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important these
742
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announcements are
743
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and how important
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it is for the
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government
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to be transparent
747
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in their
748
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commitments
749
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if they committed
750
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during UNOC.
751
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So find out if
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your country's
753
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committed.
754
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It'd be
755
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nice to see.
756
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If your country
757
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hasn't ratified
758
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the high
759
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seas treaty,
760
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you can actually
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go, I'll put the
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link in the
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show notes.
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You can actually
765
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go to a website,
766
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highseasalliance.org,
767
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and there's a
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treaty
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ratification
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table
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that shows if
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your country's
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ratified.
774
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It's really cool
775
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to see the
776
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progress.
777
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We're 10 away
778
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from
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ratification,
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which will
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be great.
782
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It has to be done
783
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by, I believe,
784
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January, 2026.
785
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So we're still
786
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about six months
787
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away from it
788
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happening
789
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in 10 more
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countries.
791
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Canada, the US,
792
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Mexico have not
793
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done it in North
794
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America.
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That's a shame.
796
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I hope that
797
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they do it.
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I know Canada
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said they will.
800
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They'll sign,
801
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they signed onto
802
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it to agree to
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the treaty.
804
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They just haven't
805
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ratified it yet.
806
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And they just had
807
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an election.
808
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So hopefully
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they'll
810
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ratify it then.
811
00:10:00,666 --> 00:10:01,083
They've had a lot
812
00:10:01,083 --> 00:10:01,500
of political
813
00:10:01,500 --> 00:10:02,208
problems.
814
00:10:02,208 --> 00:10:03,041
Same with the US.
815
00:10:03,541 --> 00:10:03,958
And of course,
816
00:10:03,958 --> 00:10:04,916
all North America
817
00:10:05,166 --> 00:10:06,000
is just watching
818
00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:06,625
the US and see
819
00:10:06,625 --> 00:10:07,166
what it does.
820
00:10:07,166 --> 00:10:08,000
It's been fairly
821
00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:08,333
disruptive
822
00:10:08,333 --> 00:10:08,916
this year.
823
00:10:08,916 --> 00:10:09,458
So we'll see what
824
00:10:09,458 --> 00:10:09,833
happens.
825
00:10:10,208 --> 00:10:10,416
However,
826
00:10:10,666 --> 00:10:11,250
hopefully they
827
00:10:11,250 --> 00:10:12,041
will ratify it.
828
00:10:12,208 --> 00:10:12,666
It might be last
829
00:10:12,666 --> 00:10:13,083
minute, but
830
00:10:13,083 --> 00:10:13,666
hopefully they
831
00:10:13,666 --> 00:10:14,666
will ratify it.
832
00:10:14,666 --> 00:10:15,041
But that's the
833
00:10:15,041 --> 00:10:15,375
episode
834
00:10:15,375 --> 00:10:16,166
for today.
835
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I want to thank
836
00:10:16,500 --> 00:10:17,375
you so much for
837
00:10:17,375 --> 00:10:17,916
joining me on
838
00:10:17,916 --> 00:10:18,541
today's episode.
839
00:10:18,541 --> 00:10:18,958
I'd love to hear
840
00:10:18,958 --> 00:10:19,958
what you think.
841
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Put your comments
842
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down below.
843
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If you're
844
00:10:21,291 --> 00:10:21,791
watching this on
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send me an email
847
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or fill out the
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contact sheet.
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If you want to
850
00:10:25,666 --> 00:10:26,458
get ahold of me,
851
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if you're
852
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listening to
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this audio,
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you go to
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speakupforblue.com
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forward slash
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contact.
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It goes right to
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my, fill
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out the form.
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It goes right to
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my email.
863
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I'd love to hear
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your thoughts.
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Or you can DM me
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on Instagram at
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868
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the ocean.
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That's at how to
870
00:10:39,708 --> 00:10:39,958
protect
871
00:10:39,958 --> 00:10:40,291
the ocean.
872
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I want to thank
873
00:10:40,833 --> 00:10:41,416
you so much for
874
00:10:41,416 --> 00:10:41,666
joining me
875
00:10:41,666 --> 00:10:42,125
on today's
876
00:10:42,125 --> 00:10:42,708
episode of the
877
00:10:42,708 --> 00:10:43,125
how to protect
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00:10:43,125 --> 00:10:43,416
the ocean
879
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podcast.
880
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Have a great day.
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We'll talk to you
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00:10:45,041 --> 00:10:45,916
next time and
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happy
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conservation.
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I am back from
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the UN Oceans
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Conference in
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Nice, France.
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Beautiful
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country, a lot of
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stuff announced,
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including a lot
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of money that was
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made for ocean
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conservation,
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but not enough to
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really protect
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the ocean. Quite
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a bit shy.
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We're also going
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to talk about a
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lot of
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announcements
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that were made in
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terms of high
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seas treaty,
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in terms of the
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global plastic
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pollution
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treaties and the
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commitments
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for that,
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as well as marine
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protected areas
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announcements.
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So we're going to
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talk all about
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that on today's
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episode of the
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How to Protect
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the Ocean
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podcast.
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Let's
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start the show.
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Hey everybody,
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welcome back to
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another exciting
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episode of the
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How to Protect
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the Ocean
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podcast.
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I'm your host,
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Andrew Lewin.
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This is the
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podcast where you
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find out what's
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happening with
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the ocean,
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how you could
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speak up for the
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ocean, what you
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can do to live
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for a better
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ocean by
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taking action.
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On today's
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episode, we're
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going to be
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talking about my
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trip to Nice,
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France, not my
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20th anniversary
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that I celebrated
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in these France
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with my wonderful
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wife, but we're
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going to be
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talking
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about the UN
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Oceans
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Conference, which
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is one of the
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things that I
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went to Nice for,
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not only spend a
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wonderful
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time with my
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wife, but also go
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to the
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conference, see
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what's happening,
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connect with
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friends, connect
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with colleagues
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and meet new
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people and new
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friends at these
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conferences,
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which I
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love to do.
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Now I'm going to
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just right off
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the bat, I'm
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going to say this
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was very
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different
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from the
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conferences that
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I normally go to.
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Now, normally
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there's science
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conferences that
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I go to, and
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this had a
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science component
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that was done the
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week before I
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went. I went from
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the 11th to the
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15th. This lasted
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basically from
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the second to the
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13th, but there
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was a lot of
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stuff that
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was said.
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of stuff done and
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it was a little
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bit different in
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terms that
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normally
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when you go
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to a conference
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that I normally
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go to, it's at
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one hotel. Either
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you stay in that
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hotel or you
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just walk to it
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from a different
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and you spend
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most of the time
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in different
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rooms and
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sessions and
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workshops,
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speaking with
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people,
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connecting with
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individuals
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and friends
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and colleagues
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and so forth,
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maybe potentially
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collaborating on
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new projects. And
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when you talk
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with that and you
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network, this was
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a little bit
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different, not
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the networking
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part. There was a
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lot of that, but
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the way
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everything was
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dispersed across
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the city, it was
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a little bit
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hectic. There
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was a blue zone,
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which all the
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delegations were
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there, like all
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the government
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delegations and
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the big
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announcements
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were done, which
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in just a sec.
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was a green
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zone, which was
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open to the
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public. This has
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never happened
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before. This is
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the third
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time this
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conference is
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done. It never
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happened before
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in Barcelona. So
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this was cool
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that they
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opened it
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to the public.
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for kids. We
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could talk about
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startups. We
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talked about
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fishing. We
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talked about
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everything. There
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was a little
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presentations
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going around, but
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it was really
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cool. Show some B
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roll from some of
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the pictures and
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videos that I
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took the city of
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nice is
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absolutely
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gorgeous. There's
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a lot of water
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there to remind
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you to connect to
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the water. I got
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to jump in the
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water with my
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friend Angela
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Villa Gomez and a
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number of
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different people
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that I met there
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in the morning
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before my
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co-hosting
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session for the
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undertow that I
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co-founded
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started. And we
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had a great time
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there, but there
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were a lot of
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like, there's a
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green zone that
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you can go to.
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of side events.
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pretty hectic to
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run around and it
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was hot. And so
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if you're wearing
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conference
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attire, it was
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very hot,
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very sticky.
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But it was a lot
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of fun to go to.
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But some of these
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announcements
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that I'm going to
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talk about, I'm
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going to
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interject as I
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recount these
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announcements
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were very
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interesting. I
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say to you, take
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it with a grain
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of salt. There's
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a lot of stuff
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that sounds
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really great, but
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don't hold your
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breath. A lot of
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what I've learned
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from a lot of
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these
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announcements by
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governments and
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different NGOs
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and stuff like
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that is like, I
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will believe it
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when I see it.
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And that's all
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I'm going to say
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there, but it is
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in a positive
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direction, which
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is great. So
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we're going to
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talk about that.
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I'm going to run
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through it pretty
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quickly. There
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was some heavy
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financial
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commitments,
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including 3
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billion euros
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from the European
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Investment
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Bank. And
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the European Asian Development
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Bank to tackle
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ocean plastic
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pollution through
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2030, which is
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great. Not much
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detail in that,
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but that was
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great
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announcement. 2.5
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billion US from
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the US Bank of
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Latin America and
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Caribbean CAF for
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sustainable
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marine
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investments from
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2025 to 2030.
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There's a 119
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million euro via
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World Bank for
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climate
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resilience in
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Guinea's coasts.
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There is 2
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million euro for
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Mediterranean
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ecosystems in
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North Africa and
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1.8 million euro
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to reinforce
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marine protected
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areas in Costa
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Rica and in the
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Mediterranean.
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Which is great.
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And then we saw
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private
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investments when
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capital raised
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160 million euro
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towards the Swen
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Blue Ocean 2 fund
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targeted 300
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million euro for
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biodiversity
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focused startups,
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which is great to
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see. And then of
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course, bird life
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and philanthropic
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public investors
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committed to 8.7
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billion euro over
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5 years for ocean
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conservation.
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Now, if I say
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this, despite
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that influx,
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which was great
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to see, it still
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falls short of
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the estimated 175
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billion dollars
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that are needed
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annually to
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protect the ocean.
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So that's the
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financial
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investments.
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Again, I'll
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believe that when
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I see all those
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investments be
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spent and all
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those projects
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come through, not
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all them will be
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successes, but at
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least there's
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money going into
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those projects.
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And for the high
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seas, the treaty
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advances. So the
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high seas treaty
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needs to be
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ratified. They
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need 60 countries
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to ratify those.
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At the end of
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this conference,
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there were 50.
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They added 12
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countries,
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bringing a total
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to 50. Just 10
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short of the 60
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needed to bring
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the high seas
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treaty into
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force. India did
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pledge to ratify
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soon, reinforcing
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the movement or
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momentum of the treaty.
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So they're going to be able to
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move forward with
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that. Once the 60
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are reached,
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there will be 120
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day countdown to
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an enactment with
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COP 1 scheduled
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within a year
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after that. The
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new marine
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protected areas
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and 30 by 30
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progress, the
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niece declaration
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of reaffirmed
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support for 30 by
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30. The target
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marking progress
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from 8% over 10%
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ocean protection.
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France, Costa
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Rica, Cabo Verde
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and others
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announced new
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marine protected
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areas including
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French
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Polynesians, 5
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million dollars
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square kilometer
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sanctuary. The
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world's largest
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MPA when I say
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this though, take
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it with a grain
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of salt. Some of
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these MPAs still
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allow fishing
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activities like
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trawling into it.
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The movie ocean,
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which I reviewed
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last week, really
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played an
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important role in
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the discussion of
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banning trawling
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within marine
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protected areas.
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That was brought
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up a number of
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times throughout
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UNOC, the United
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Nations Ocean
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Conference. And
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that was the
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purpose of the
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movie. It
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actually mentions
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the United
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Nations Ocean
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Conference at the
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end of that movie
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and the credits
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before the
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credits run. And
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so that was a big
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topic of
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discussion within
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that. I don't
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know what the
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announcements
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were around that.
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But the pressure
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was put on,
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especially on the
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UK for allowing
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that to happen.
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Deep sea mining
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caution. So a
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growing coalition
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of 37 countries
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called for
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moratorium on
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deep sea mining.
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Advocating a
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precautionary
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halt, pending
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better science
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and governance.
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French and
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international
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leaders
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underscore the
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need to pause on
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seabed mining. Because
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essentially we
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don't know a lot
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about the seabed.
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I think we've
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mapped 25% of the
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seabed. We still
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have a lot more
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to do. And we
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just don't know
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what we're gonna
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screw up. And
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we're really good
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at screwing
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things up. So
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that's something
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that we have to
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be careful of.
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Combating
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plastics and
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ghost gear. So
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the Declaration
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urges against
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plastic pollution
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and ghost gear
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pushing the
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fisheries and
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agricultural
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organization and
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other
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organizations to
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ramp up efforts
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to clean those
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up. Countries
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like Australia
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recommitted to a
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global plastic
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treaty, which was
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gone through the
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process over the
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last year and a
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half. We've
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covered it on the
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podcast here. It
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didn't come out
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great. I'm not
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sure we'll have
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to cover where
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the plastic
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treaty is now,
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but they've done
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all their
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meetings. And I
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don't know if it
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was actually
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agreed upon.
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We'll have to
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talk about that
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soon. Confirm
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support for the
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high seas
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protection
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Australia.
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And vowed to ban
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bottom trawling
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in 30% of its
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waters by 2030,
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which I assume
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that will be
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marine protected
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areas given the
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30 by 30 target.
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Improving ocean
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governance and
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finance. So
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investors voice
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concerns that
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unclear
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regulations and
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weak ocean data
583
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are limiting the
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private sector
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involvement. Take
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that with a grain
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of salt, because
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usually it's the
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private investors
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and private
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sector that are
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causing a lot of
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the problems. I'd
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love to see more
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investment from
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the private
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sector and
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getting them to
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help clear up
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these
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regulations. But
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a lot of times
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it's usually
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private sector
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that's working
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against the
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private sector.
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And so that's an
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interesting
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comment by some
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of the people who
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were talking
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about these are
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the big
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announcements.
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These investors
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call for stronger
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governance, which
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is absolutely
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needed subsidy
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reform, which is
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absolutely needed
623
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a lot of
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subsidies in
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terms of money
626
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goes towards
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fishing subsidies
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and more
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transparent
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frameworks to
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mobilize private
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capital. Now,
633
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just to go back
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to the subsidies.
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What I meant by
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fishing subsidies
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is giving it to
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the big
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industries, not
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the artisanal
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fishers. It's the
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big industries
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that usually get
644
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a lot of the
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subsidies and
646
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usually are the
647
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biggest problems.
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So now the NICE
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ocean action plan
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includes a
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political
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declaration and
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over 800 plus
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voluntary
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commitments from
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governments, UN
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agencies,
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scientists and
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NGOs, UN
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secretary
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general, I think
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that's how you
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pronounce the
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name, stress the
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shift from a
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plunder to
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protection, which
668
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is obvious. We
669
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need that shift.
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Urging world
671
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leaders to
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protect at least
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30% of their
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oceans by 2030.
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Will that happen?
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It doesn't look
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like it's likely. I'm hopeful that it will get close. Hopefully
there'll be a big push. But will we worry about that?
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It's not going to
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be a paper MPa,
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it's got to be a
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proper MPa. It's
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got to work. It's
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got to be
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enforced. It's
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got to be managed
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properly. It's
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got to be done
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well. So bottom
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line is the nice
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conference achieve major boosts in financing, conservation targets and 3d progress.
But funding is not going to help. It's got to be a way to deal with the
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achieve major
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boosts in
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financing,
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conservation targets, and
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treaty progress,
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but funding gaps
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still remain,
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and the
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scientists warned
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that the
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political
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decoration
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doesn't fully
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address damaging
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practices
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like harmful
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fishing,
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underwater noise,
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and the climate
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role of marine
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species.
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Still, global
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ambition is
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stronger,
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and with the high
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seas treaty
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nearing
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ratification,
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the world may
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finally
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be heading
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toward legally
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binding
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international
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ocean protection,
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which would be
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nice to see.
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I just don't know
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if that's
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gonna happen.
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So we're gonna
732
00:09:08,875 --> 00:09:09,708
have to see if
733
00:09:09,708 --> 00:09:10,000
that happens,
734
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but the biggest
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thing that you
736
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could do
737
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is talk to your
738
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government
739
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representative
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to say how
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important these
742
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announcements are
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and how important
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it is for the
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government
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to be transparent
747
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in their
748
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commitments
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if they committed
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during UNOC.
751
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So find out if
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your country's
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committed.
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It'd be
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nice to see.
756
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If your country
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hasn't ratified
758
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the high
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seas treaty,
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you can actually
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go, I'll put the
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link in the
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show notes.
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You can actually
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go to a website,
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highseasalliance.org,
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and there's a
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treaty
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ratification
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table
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that shows if
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your country's
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ratified.
774
00:09:35,833 --> 00:09:36,375
It's really cool
775
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to see the
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progress.
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We're 10 away
778
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from
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ratification,
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which will
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be great.
782
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It has to be done
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by, I believe,
784
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January, 2026.
785
00:09:43,458 --> 00:09:44,083
So we're still
786
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about six months
787
00:09:44,833 --> 00:09:45,375
away from it
788
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happening
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in 10 more
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countries.
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Canada, the US,
792
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Mexico have not
793
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done it in North
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America.
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That's a shame.
796
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I hope that
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they do it.
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I know Canada
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said they will.
800
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They'll sign,
801
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they signed onto
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it to agree to
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the treaty.
804
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They just haven't
805
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ratified it yet.
806
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And they just had
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an election.
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So hopefully
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they'll
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ratify it then.
811
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They've had a lot
812
00:10:01,083 --> 00:10:01,500
of political
813
00:10:01,500 --> 00:10:02,208
problems.
814
00:10:02,208 --> 00:10:03,041
Same with the US.
815
00:10:03,541 --> 00:10:03,958
And of course,
816
00:10:03,958 --> 00:10:04,916
all North America
817
00:10:05,166 --> 00:10:06,000
is just watching
818
00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:06,625
the US and see
819
00:10:06,625 --> 00:10:07,166
what it does.
820
00:10:07,166 --> 00:10:08,000
It's been fairly
821
00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:08,333
disruptive
822
00:10:08,333 --> 00:10:08,916
this year.
823
00:10:08,916 --> 00:10:09,458
So we'll see what
824
00:10:09,458 --> 00:10:09,833
happens.
825
00:10:10,208 --> 00:10:10,416
However,
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00:10:10,666 --> 00:10:11,250
hopefully they
827
00:10:11,250 --> 00:10:12,041
will ratify it.
828
00:10:12,208 --> 00:10:12,666
It might be last
829
00:10:12,666 --> 00:10:13,083
minute, but
830
00:10:13,083 --> 00:10:13,666
hopefully they
831
00:10:13,666 --> 00:10:14,666
will ratify it.
832
00:10:14,666 --> 00:10:15,041
But that's the
833
00:10:15,041 --> 00:10:15,375
episode
834
00:10:15,375 --> 00:10:16,166
for today.
835
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I want to thank
836
00:10:16,500 --> 00:10:17,375
you so much for
837
00:10:17,375 --> 00:10:17,916
joining me on
838
00:10:17,916 --> 00:10:18,541
today's episode.
839
00:10:18,541 --> 00:10:18,958
I'd love to hear
840
00:10:18,958 --> 00:10:19,958
what you think.
841
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Put your comments
842
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down below.
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If you're
844
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watching this on
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If you want to
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get ahold of me,
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your thoughts.
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Or you can DM me
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the ocean.
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That's at how to
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protect
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00:10:39,958 --> 00:10:40,291
the ocean.
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I want to thank
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00:10:40,833 --> 00:10:41,416
you so much for
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joining me
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on today's
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episode of the
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how to protect
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00:10:43,125 --> 00:10:43,416
the ocean
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podcast.
880
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Have a great day.
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We'll talk to you
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00:10:45,041 --> 00:10:45,916
next time and
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happy
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conservation.
