Episode 2000: TV Offers, Job Offers, and a Major Announcement

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When I recorded

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episode one of the podcast,

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I had no idea it would

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lead to TV offers, job offers,

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and eventually my dream job.

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Today is episode 2,000, that's 2,000.

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And I wanna tell you

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exactly how that happened

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on this episode of the How

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to Protect the Ocean podcast.

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This is probably one

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of my biggest episodes

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that I've ever produced,

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not because it's just a solo episode,

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but because of the milestone,

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the 2,000 episode mark in podcasting,

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that is a huge thing.

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I'm gonna tell you how I got

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there, why it's so important.

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But before I do, if you are interested in

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hearing another 2000 episodes

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on how to protect the ocean, you can do

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so by following this podcast.

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Just hit that follow button on your

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favorite podcast app,

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or you can go to speakupforblue.com

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forward slash podcast

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to look at the podcast

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and listen to all of it.

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The last 2000 episodes

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when I started like, look,

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this is a huge deal for me.

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This is this is massive for me.

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I never thought I would get to 2000,

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especially the journey

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that got me to podcasting.

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I started off if for those of you who

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don't know, first of all,

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if you've been with me since

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day one, thank you so much.

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But if you don't know the story,

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I'm going to tell you a little bit of the

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story of how I got into podcasting.

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It was around 2010.

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I was at a job.

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I want to start some kind

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of science communication.

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I was talking to a bunch of different

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people about, you know,

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blogs and stuff like that.

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I started off, you know,

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what everybody's doing blogs.

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There's seven fried science.

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There's deep-sea news.

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They're amazing.

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I want to contribute

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in my own kind of way.

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I'm going to do five episodes or five

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blog posts a week on different stories.

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I'm going to write is

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going to be amazing.

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I'm going to make so

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much money off of blogging.

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That didn't happen.

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I did not like writing,

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especially five days a week.

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It's a lot to be a reporter, a journalist

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in such a way that I wanted to be.

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That's a lot of of time and effort and I

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just wasn't willing to put it in.

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Writing was not my forte not something I

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enjoyed to work at and I respect

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everybody who does writing and does

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science communication through writing.

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It's an absolute amazing feat to be able

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to do and great skill,

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but I just couldn't do it.

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I just couldn't handle the amount of work

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that needed to go into it.

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So then I want you know, what YouTube is

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getting bigger and bigger.

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It's 2010.

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It was started in 2006 or eight or

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somewhere around there and podcasts were

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in and around that area and it was kind

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of like under the radar.

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through a little bit of a dip.

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It started in 2006 kind of went up a

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little bit that it started to go down and

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then I started to do YouTube videos.

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Now my kids were were toddlers.

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o'clock and then at that time after I

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came down from reading the books and

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stuff like that, my wife reading the

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books, I would start doing videos and I

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would you know, record these videos in

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front of my fish or in front of my fish

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tank and I would have this recording

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going on and I would

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edit the video right then.

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then I would do that four days a week.

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everything was a ton of work and I just

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wasn't feeling it because it would take

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up my entire evening.

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I need to start to change the way I do

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things and I was still doing the videos,

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but I was in a bit of a flux and I spoke

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to an old high school football teammate

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of mine and he was like, you know what?

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He's like, have you ever heard about this

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guy that does this

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this podcast on on video?

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He does a YouTube show.

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He's like, yeah, but he's

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got an audio podcast as well.

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I forget the guy's name, but he had a

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show called Mixer G.

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I don't even know if it's still around

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but in around like 2010 2011

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actually like 2011 to 2012.

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It was all about entrepreneur,

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entrepreneurial kind of thing.

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from a text perspective, he would talk to

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you do interviews with different things.

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I really enjoyed the show and I started

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to be like, well, I'm not going to watch

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it all the time, but I go

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for dog walks all the time.

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listen to it as a podcast.

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I downloaded the podcast app or, you

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know, Apple podcast already had a podcast

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app and I was like, okay, I'm going to

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listen to the subscribe and start

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listening and listening and listening.

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other podcasts out there.

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because I was watching

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his show from his website.

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from on the podcast app.

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I'm like, I wonder if there are any ocean

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shows and ocean podcasts out there and

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there are a few, but

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they were disconnected.

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something that I could do.

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There's no video that's

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necessary and you can just record.

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about what you look like.

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you want and you can record.

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I started to look into it.

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to start a podcast as

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it is today back then.

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I'm like, how do I start this podcast?

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How do I like what do I have to do?

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I have to find a host.

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I have to start the show.

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I have to pay for the

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hosting and all this stuff.

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And then I had this video software that I

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was using for a course, Ocean

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Conservation Careers dot com.

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this course with the podcast.

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that the box or the framing is to the

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software for the video.

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a podcasting feature?

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stats and everything.

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at liberate syndication,

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which I'm still with today.

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And so you can see the stats on both.

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You had an account on both, but I didn't

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I just want to start the show.

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uploading stuff and it took me a while to

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kind of figure it out.

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But I started with interviews once a week

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and I started interviewing my friends

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that I met at conferences.

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That's the whole point of the podcast was

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to bring the podcast to people who didn't

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know the people that were on the show.

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the I wanted to know the projects that

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they were on and I wanted them to talk

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about what they were doing and get to

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know who they are because there was a

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there was a thing at that point.

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scientists are these elitists and there's

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this like, you know, reputation that we

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have for some reason words like we know

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better than everybody else when we're

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just like everybody else.

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everybody else, often underpaid.

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And so this is these are the people that

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are working in ocean conservation from

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advocacy to science to conservation, to

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activism to everything.

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that same kind of mission, although I've

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added solo episodes, now I added solo

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episodes after the 10th or 11th episode.

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And I really enjoyed it. I said, look,

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I'm going to I had the mic that I have

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back there. You can't see it right now

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because it's not video, but it was a Yeti

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mic and it was a mic that I didn't know

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how to use very well.

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my room that I'm in same office, but I

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have a better mic now. So I invested into

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a better microphone assures SM7B, which

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was like the ones that

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the radio broadcasters had.

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It was expensive. But I'm like, you know

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what, I'm going to get it. And I got the

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I got the mic and I started doing five

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episodes a week. And I did that for about

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a year, year and a half. I had a friend

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or a guy that I met through like the

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interning and Nathan Johnson, who was

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fantastic, still fantastic today.

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We keep in touch every once in a while.

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And he would do the writing for me. He

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would do my show notes and the blog posts

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and everything. And then we had an

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episode every Friday called Ocean Talk

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Friday, where he would pick five, four or

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five episodes, four or five stories.

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the story. And I would just kind of cold

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react to him. He did a lot of work. He

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ended up getting a job, left the show

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because he was too busy,

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which is understandable.

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continued going and I went to three

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episodes a week because it was it was

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difficult to keep up with a job and

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everything and the kids

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as they were growing up.

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and kept doing it. And then I did seven

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decided, you know what, I'm going to take

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podcasting full time. I did seven days a

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I went to three days a week and I just

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recently I decided to go five days a

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week, which accelerated my this milestone

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of getting to 2000 episodes.

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Well, that's sort of the history of of of

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how to protect the ocean. Now, to start,

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the name of this podcast was Speak Up for

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Blue. Hence the website name, which is

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our network now, SpeakUpForBlue.com.

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Blue. And the reason why I went to Speak

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Up for the Ocean Blue is because of SEO,

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search engine optimization within

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podcasting. And so what I realized that

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when I typed in to Apple podcast for a

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lot of the podcasting apps, they were

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going by specific keywords

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in the title of the show.

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So Speak Up for Blue, although the blue

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signified oceans and the cover, it looked

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like oceans actually didn't look like

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oceans. It didn't look like we were

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talking about the ocean.

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Ocean Blue, all of a sudden, if I typed

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in ocean, my podcast would come up one of

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the first or the top 10, which was great

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to see. Over time, there have been more

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and more podcasts on the ocean, education

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shows, conservation shows, all these

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different types of shows.

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Whether they're large organizations or

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individuals. And I applaud each and every

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one of them for applying their creativity

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to be able to work within this podcasting

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platform is not easy.

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And to be able to pump out shows, whether

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it's once a week or five days a week or

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seven days a week or once a month, is

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difficult to do consistently. And I

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applaud everybody who's done it.

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the IMCCs, the International Marine

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Conservation Congress, I was at in

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Newfoundland, I did a presentation on

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podcasting and why I think

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more people should podcast.

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And somebody asked me, they said, hey,

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you know what, why do you want more

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people podcasting? Don't you want to be

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like the top podcast? I'm like, yeah, of

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course I want to be the top podcast.

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I'm not the only podcast that should be

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around. I'm not the voice of the ocean in

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the podcasting platform. I want there are

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many voices that need to be heard. There

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are many people from all over the world,

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from different cultures, from different

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creeds, like different religions.

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They need to be heard speak to the people

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that identify with them. I'm not I'm a

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middle age white guy. Not everybody, you

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know, connects with me and that's fine.

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And and I want to put out the information

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for people who want that information,

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which is available to anybody they want

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freely because it's all over podcasting.

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And then other people who start

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podcasting, I want to support. I want to

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help out. I want to have them on the show

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to be able to talk about their their

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podcasts and so who they're connected

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with, who their audience is because look,

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we're in ocean conservation.

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The oceans in enough trouble. We can't be

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competing against each other on

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podcasting platform. We need to be

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supporting each other as much as

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possible. And the more podcasts that are

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out there and the more we support each

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other, either by collaborating or having

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each other on each other's podcast, I

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think is that much

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more benefit to creating.

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And I think that's a benefit to cross

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pollinating target audiences so that they

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can they can make decisions on who they

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want to talk to or who they want to

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listen to and who that where they get

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their information from, which I love.

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So the fact that we're seeing more and

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more ocean conservation and science

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podcast is huge. It's really great to see

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how people have have taken up podcasting.

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But yeah, like the you know, one of the

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things that that's been that's been cool

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is to see how things have changed over

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the years in terms of podcasting.

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I've accrued over three hundred or three

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million podcasts, three million, not

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three hundred million, three million

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podcasts over like downloads over the 11

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year span that I've been doing this.

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I started in 2015. I started recording in

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2014. I was scared for a year to publish

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because I was worried about what my

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colleagues would think

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about me talking about science.

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I didn't want to be wrong. I had a big

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time in posture syndrome, but I've been

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doing it for 11 years, different

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frequency once a week, three times a

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week, five days a week, seven days a

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week, back to five days a week.

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And it's been absolutely wonderful. When

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I got close to when I got past a thousand

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episodes, I was like, this is kind of

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cool. I wonder how long I

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can go now that I'm at 2000.

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I don't think I can stop. No matter where

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I go, I think I'm always going to be

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podcasting. I'm always going to be doing

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this type of podcast.

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This will always be my quote unquote

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flagship podcast. And I think that's

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really important to say because it's not

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something that happens every day.

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I've been a part of other podcasts. I've

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actually helped start and launch probably

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about 15 different podcasts, whether

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they've been oceans or

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not actually more than that.

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Probably about 20 to 25 now, if you don't

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count the ocean podcast that I've been

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able to do consistently, I've been

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co-hosting the Beyond Jaws podcast.

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And so that was kind of cool because it

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actually came out of the How to Protect

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the Ocean podcast. Dr. David Ebert, a

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good friend of mine, Dave, came on the

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podcast and we just hit it off.

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Like I asked him to come on and talk

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about Basking Sharks. He came on. We

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talked for an hour. And then before we

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talked for an hour before

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we recorded, we recorded.

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And then we talked for about two hours

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after we recorded. And to be honest, that

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relationship has never really gone away.

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We get along really well.

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And I consider him one of my great

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friends. He's a wealth of knowledge. He

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knows a lot of people in the business.

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And the Beyond Jaws podcast is all about

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the shark science career and documenting

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the careers of everybody through

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interviews of different

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people from around the world.

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And we talked to people in the US, in

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Canada, from India, from Bangladesh, from

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New Zealand, from Australia, from Brazil,

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from Chile, all these different places in

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South America, all these different places

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in Europe and Africa as well.

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And we're able to meet so up and coming

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people, people who've been around for

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like 30 plus years. We had an episode

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about Jaws, the 50th anniversary, because

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like four of the people were working,

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like including Dave, were

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working as shark scientists.

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They call themselves the Jaws generation

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of science, the shark science, because

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that actually helped catapult their

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careers because there was more funding to

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discover more about great white sharks

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and other sharks. Dave has

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since become the lost shark guy.

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I've gotten him to get really into

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Instagram and social media and videos. He

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now has a documentary series on his

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YouTube channel called at Lost Shark Guy,

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which I edit for him.

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And it's been a crazy experience in the

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eight years that we've known each other.

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It's been phenomenal to see how he's

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grown within social media and using that,

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but also connecting to different people.

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It's just absolutely amazing.

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Now, one of the podcasts that's going to

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come out has to do with another thing

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that I wanted to talk about because I got

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a job because of this podcast. I

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mentioned at the beginning I got job

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offers and actually led to the job that

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I'm at now, which is a dream job for me.

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I get to stay in Ontario, which is a big

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thing for me because one of the reasons

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why I started podcasting and science

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communications is because I want to stay

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in touch with all my ocean conservation

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friends, but also

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still maintain in Ontario.

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And, you know, the big thing for me was,

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you know, I couldn't find a job in

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Ontario as a marine biologist. No, duh.

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There's no oceans around here. There's

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not there aren't many institutes and

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things like that that talk about oceans.

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I was working in freshwater. I worked as

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a consultant. I worked all over the

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place, but I never actually had a job

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that I truly, truly loved. Right. I had

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one like like contract or temporary job

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with the Department of Fisheries Oceans

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with Dr. Nick Mandrak. But that only

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lasted a year because of budget cuts and

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so forth. Not because I didn't like the I

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didn't like the job. But regardless,

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following this path really made me fall

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in love with science communication.

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And being and this kind of like every

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time I had a regular job, like just a non

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science job for a while for the last

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seven years. And although I enjoyed the

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people I work with, it wasn't the same to

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be able to say that I

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worked in ocean conservation.

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It was kind of a little embarrassing

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because I felt like I failed in doing my

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full time job as someone who deals with

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oceans and works within oceans.

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And I spent 16 years in science

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communication. 11 of those years working

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as a science community here full time

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pretty much on my podcast, but outside of

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work hours. Right. And so basically from

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five o'clock until sometimes midnight or

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two or three in the morning and sometimes

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early, early in the morning.

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And and it led to a lot of opportunities

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TV shows, podcasts, hosting, all that

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kind of stuff. But but it never led me

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towards that full time job until this

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year when I joined Pisces Oceans as their

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ocean communications manager. Natalie

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Gilson and I had been friends for a

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while. She had been on this podcast

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because she reached out because she was a

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marketing person getting into oceans and

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wanted to have more of an impact. She

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found this job at Pisces. She

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brought me on this past year.

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And it's been an absolute dream to work

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with the people that I do to work on the

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projects that I get to work on. And I get

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to have a lot of say. They take into my

540
00:17:27,166 --> 00:17:30,208
feedback. I've learned a lot since I've

541
00:17:30,208 --> 00:17:32,500
started from a communication standpoint

542
00:17:32,500 --> 00:17:35,666
and from a science communication

543
00:17:35,666 --> 00:17:38,125
standpoint, which has been phenomenal,

544
00:17:38,333 --> 00:17:39,666
which has been

545
00:17:39,666 --> 00:17:40,708
wonderful to be able to work in.

546
00:17:40,750 --> 00:17:44,541
And be able to get that job allows me to

547
00:17:44,541 --> 00:17:47,500
feel fulfilled. It fulfills me throughout

548
00:17:47,500 --> 00:17:49,708
the day to be able to say I get to work

549
00:17:49,708 --> 00:17:53,666
on ocean projects every single day. And I

550
00:17:53,666 --> 00:17:55,958
get to help. One of my coworkers,

551
00:17:56,166 --> 00:17:57,375
Kristina, who's been on the podcast as

552
00:17:57,375 --> 00:17:59,208
well, she was saying to me, she's like,

553
00:17:59,208 --> 00:18:00,791
yeah, she's like, you know, the one thing

554
00:18:00,791 --> 00:18:02,083
we love working, we were saying to each

555
00:18:02,083 --> 00:18:04,166
other is that we get to help other

556
00:18:04,166 --> 00:18:06,916
projects really make sure they have an

557
00:18:06,916 --> 00:18:08,708
impact. They get to focus on that impact.

558
00:18:09,083 --> 00:18:09,708
And that's great because we're almost scared of that.

559
00:18:09,750 --> 00:18:10,416
And that's great because we're almost

560
00:18:10,416 --> 00:18:12,958
scaling our impact by helping other

561
00:18:12,958 --> 00:18:15,166
clients and companies and nonprofit

562
00:18:15,166 --> 00:18:17,125
organizations and academic networks and

563
00:18:17,125 --> 00:18:19,250
academic people who just like doing

564
00:18:19,250 --> 00:18:21,125
projects and need our help. And we were

565
00:18:21,125 --> 00:18:22,625
able to provide that help. That's

566
00:18:22,625 --> 00:18:23,500
wonderful to be able to

567
00:18:23,500 --> 00:18:25,000
do. That makes me feel good.

568
00:18:25,750 --> 00:18:26,375
And I think that's what I said when I

569
00:18:26,375 --> 00:18:27,583
first started, you know, it's still a

570
00:18:27,583 --> 00:18:28,875
lot. You're working eight hours and then

571
00:18:28,875 --> 00:18:30,500
you're going home and you're doing, oh, I

572
00:18:30,500 --> 00:18:31,750
work from home. But you after that, you

573
00:18:31,750 --> 00:18:33,625
work on the podcast and you work on

574
00:18:33,625 --> 00:18:35,375
putting five episodes together, including

575
00:18:35,375 --> 00:18:36,958
an interview episode. You're doing it

576
00:18:36,958 --> 00:18:38,833
outside of work hours, sometimes early in

577
00:18:38,833 --> 00:18:40,791
the morning, sometimes late at night. And

578
00:18:40,791 --> 00:18:42,791
that is taxing on somebody right now

579
00:18:42,791 --> 00:18:45,583
who's 47 years old. I'm not a young

580
00:18:45,583 --> 00:18:48,416
spring chicken anymore. And so I need to

581
00:18:48,416 --> 00:18:51,208
get my rest and I wasn't getting it.

582
00:18:51,750 --> 00:18:55,083
And, you know, Pisces and I like Natalie

583
00:18:55,083 --> 00:18:58,000
Melissa Weber, who's the their co CEOs

584
00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,541
and Christy, we were talking a lot about

585
00:19:00,541 --> 00:19:02,791
the podcast and how we can incorporate

586
00:19:02,791 --> 00:19:05,000
the podcast within Pisces. And we finally

587
00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,208
found a way. So with this 2000 episode, I

588
00:19:08,208 --> 00:19:11,083
get to announce that I've licensed out

589
00:19:11,083 --> 00:19:13,791
the how to protect the ocean podcast with

590
00:19:13,791 --> 00:19:16,250
two Pisces for a lot

591
00:19:16,250 --> 00:19:17,125
of different reasons.

592
00:19:17,750 --> 00:19:19,958
But the main reasons is that this show

593
00:19:19,958 --> 00:19:22,291
becomes better. And I can tell you why it

594
00:19:22,291 --> 00:19:24,791
becomes better because I can work on the

595
00:19:24,791 --> 00:19:27,208
show during my work hours. I'm this is

596
00:19:27,208 --> 00:19:29,041
I'm during work hours right now doing

597
00:19:29,041 --> 00:19:32,500
this podcast and the podcast that how to

598
00:19:32,500 --> 00:19:33,833
protect the ocean podcast and Pisces has

599
00:19:33,833 --> 00:19:34,708
a very similar mission.

600
00:19:34,750 --> 00:19:37,208
We're here to to create an ocean impact.

601
00:19:37,500 --> 00:19:38,583
We're going to have a positive ocean

602
00:19:38,583 --> 00:19:40,708
impact through science, strategy and

603
00:19:40,708 --> 00:19:42,791
story. Very similar in terms of our

604
00:19:42,791 --> 00:19:44,916
visions, very similar in terms of our

605
00:19:44,916 --> 00:19:46,375
missions and to bring

606
00:19:46,375 --> 00:19:48,125
us together made sense.

607
00:19:49,291 --> 00:19:50,708
The other aspect is I get to work on a

608
00:19:50,708 --> 00:19:51,750
journey of the day. So I'm not working at

609
00:19:51,750 --> 00:19:53,166
midnight or 11 o'clock. So I'm getting

610
00:19:53,166 --> 00:19:55,583
I'm not exhausted when I do it. There

611
00:19:55,583 --> 00:19:57,625
have been times there have been times

612
00:19:57,625 --> 00:19:58,958
where I've done a podcast. I've started

613
00:19:58,958 --> 00:20:00,416
recording at midnight.

614
00:20:01,125 --> 00:20:03,250
And it goes on for like 20 minutes or 45

615
00:20:03,250 --> 00:20:04,875
minutes or whatever. And then I realized

616
00:20:04,875 --> 00:20:06,208
this is one time in particular, I

617
00:20:06,208 --> 00:20:08,625
realized I didn't hit the record button

618
00:20:08,625 --> 00:20:11,500
45 minutes 1245 in the morning, I didn't

619
00:20:11,500 --> 00:20:12,916
hit the record button. I want to put this

620
00:20:12,916 --> 00:20:14,833
episode out that next morning. And I'm

621
00:20:14,833 --> 00:20:16,250
like, what do I do? Do I go to bed or do

622
00:20:16,250 --> 00:20:17,625
I do it in the morning? Or do I just do

623
00:20:17,625 --> 00:20:18,708
it again? I did it again.

624
00:20:19,750 --> 00:20:22,166
The record button, I thought I press it.

625
00:20:22,166 --> 00:20:23,666
I swear to this day, I thought I pressed

626
00:20:23,666 --> 00:20:26,416
it. Did not press it. Another 45 minutes

627
00:20:26,416 --> 00:20:27,916
goes by me doing the entire show. And I

628
00:20:27,916 --> 00:20:30,000
was like, oh, God, nothing did it. So I'm

629
00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,208
at this point now. It's 130 in the

630
00:20:32,208 --> 00:20:34,541
morning, give or take. And I'm I'm tired.

631
00:20:34,875 --> 00:20:38,083
I'm angry. Possibly emotional in other

632
00:20:38,083 --> 00:20:40,375
ways. And I'm like, what do I do? Like,

633
00:20:40,375 --> 00:20:42,500
how do I do it again? Like, like third

634
00:20:42,500 --> 00:20:44,958
time's a charm. I did a third time. I

635
00:20:44,958 --> 00:20:46,583
ended up going to bed finally, like 230

636
00:20:46,583 --> 00:20:47,708
after editing and everything like that. But I did it again.

637
00:20:47,750 --> 00:20:51,833
And, uh, and, uh, and, you know, waking

638
00:20:51,833 --> 00:20:53,666
up the next morning, I'm just useless to

639
00:20:53,666 --> 00:20:55,958
my family to work and everything. And so

640
00:20:55,958 --> 00:20:58,041
I've spent a lot of late nights. I spent

641
00:20:58,041 --> 00:20:59,875
a lot of early mornings getting up and,

642
00:20:59,875 --> 00:21:01,625
um, you know, talking to people who are

643
00:21:01,625 --> 00:21:03,333
in a time zone, like in European time

644
00:21:03,333 --> 00:21:04,708
zone where they're like six, seven hours

645
00:21:04,708 --> 00:21:08,041
ahead. Uh, South Africa, like they're,

646
00:21:08,041 --> 00:21:09,708
they're around the same time talking to

647
00:21:09,708 --> 00:21:11,416
people there. So I'm getting up at seven

648
00:21:11,416 --> 00:21:12,875
o'clock or eight o'clock in the morning

649
00:21:12,875 --> 00:21:14,875
doing these interviews while people are

650
00:21:14,875 --> 00:21:16,125
sleeping. So I'm trying to keep it down.

651
00:21:16,125 --> 00:21:17,708
So I don't wake up my wife and kids. So I'm like, oh, I'm going to get up. I'm like, what are you doing? I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm not doing this. I'm like, I'm like, I'm not doing this. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm not doing this. I

652
00:21:17,750 --> 00:21:17,958
Maija activating my body. Um, so the last time
I was back in the morning, uh, I was awake.

653
00:21:17,958 --> 00:21:37,958
And I was breakfast doing, um, um, dinner warmer, um, because I'm front, uh, did I have issues with my kids, um, just need to

654
00:21:37,958 --> 00:21:40,000
come and get sleep. A little bit? Maybe I needed

655
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,875
a long time to come on my, to pay my

656
00:21:41,875 --> 00:21:42,416
fees. Obviously I feel in a 62- Trailer appears in

657
00:21:42,416 --> 00:21:44,708
May just last week and that'll help my spouse, my weightedert, my kids, uh, cause they're

658
00:21:44,750 --> 00:21:47,125
job that I do. But now I get to make

659
00:21:47,125 --> 00:21:50,166
better episodes for you.

660
00:21:51,041 --> 00:21:54,500
And now we're talking with my coworkers

661
00:21:54,500 --> 00:21:56,083
on how to make more of

662
00:21:56,083 --> 00:21:58,500
an impact with Pisces and how

663
00:21:58,500 --> 00:22:00,625
to protect the ocean through

664
00:22:00,958 --> 00:22:02,958
various ways, which we'll come out and

665
00:22:02,958 --> 00:22:04,416
we'll talk about, you

666
00:22:04,416 --> 00:22:05,333
know, in the next in the

667
00:22:05,333 --> 00:22:07,000
next upcoming months, which I'm

668
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,250
excited about. I'm really,

669
00:22:08,250 --> 00:22:10,166
really excited about. With that

670
00:22:10,166 --> 00:22:12,083
said, we are going to have a Pisces

671
00:22:12,083 --> 00:22:13,083
podcast called the Ocean

672
00:22:13,166 --> 00:22:15,375
Leaders podcast. And so it's going to

673
00:22:15,375 --> 00:22:16,125
join the Speak Up for

674
00:22:16,125 --> 00:22:19,208
Blue network. It's already has myself, it

675
00:22:19,208 --> 00:22:20,041
already had like how

676
00:22:20,041 --> 00:22:21,416
to protect the ocean. It'll have Ocean

677
00:22:21,416 --> 00:22:22,166
Leaders podcast, it'll

678
00:22:22,166 --> 00:22:23,541
have Beyond Jaws podcast. And

679
00:22:23,541 --> 00:22:24,916
of course, it'll have as we're

680
00:22:24,916 --> 00:22:27,333
getting, getting ready to do the next

681
00:22:27,333 --> 00:22:28,541
season and get ramped up,

682
00:22:29,041 --> 00:22:30,458
Polar Bears and Foot Flops with Angelo

683
00:22:30,458 --> 00:22:32,083
Villagomez. So we have

684
00:22:32,250 --> 00:22:34,041
four, four podcasts coming

685
00:22:34,041 --> 00:22:35,625
out, including the Ocean Leaders

686
00:22:35,625 --> 00:22:37,125
podcast, which will be like, if you're

687
00:22:37,125 --> 00:22:38,500
interested in, in Ocean

688
00:22:38,500 --> 00:22:40,708
Leading Leader podcasts, and you're like

689
00:22:40,708 --> 00:22:41,375
an Ocean Leader, and

690
00:22:41,375 --> 00:22:43,541
you work on projects, this is the podcast

691
00:22:43,541 --> 00:22:44,250
that you're going to want to

692
00:22:44,250 --> 00:22:46,416
listen to. It's all about why Project

693
00:22:46,416 --> 00:22:48,833
stall, it's all about, you know,

694
00:22:48,833 --> 00:22:49,958
making sure you have a communication

695
00:22:49,958 --> 00:22:52,416
strategy, all that kind of stuff. It'll

696
00:22:52,416 --> 00:22:54,791
be Pisces very focused on people who are

697
00:22:54,791 --> 00:22:56,625
in and doing projects, whether

698
00:22:56,625 --> 00:22:58,083
you're a nonprofit organization, whether

699
00:22:58,083 --> 00:22:59,041
you're by yourself, whether

700
00:22:59,041 --> 00:23:03,083
you're part of a larger corporation, or a

701
00:23:03,083 --> 00:23:04,666
startup, you know, we're here to

702
00:23:04,666 --> 00:23:06,000
help you with that. So that's going to be

703
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,208
a lot of fun to be able to do.

704
00:23:08,250 --> 00:23:09,708
And of course, I've got Ocean Decoded

705
00:23:09,708 --> 00:23:11,541
Live, which is my YouTube show live show,

706
00:23:11,541 --> 00:23:13,375
which I went live yesterday, had some

707
00:23:13,375 --> 00:23:16,208
problems, but ended up being okay. I'll

708
00:23:16,208 --> 00:23:17,708
talk about that on another time. So we

709
00:23:17,708 --> 00:23:19,708
got lots of stuff coming. But I'm really

710
00:23:19,708 --> 00:23:21,625
excited about this, this licensing

711
00:23:21,625 --> 00:23:23,375
agreement with how to protect the ocean.

712
00:23:23,750 --> 00:23:25,166
The fact that we have the very similar

713
00:23:25,166 --> 00:23:27,083
missions, and it just works really,

714
00:23:27,083 --> 00:23:29,541
really well. And we're hoping to sort of

715
00:23:29,541 --> 00:23:32,000
increase that ocean impact as we go

716
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,000
through that. Now, of course, you know,

717
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,250
this has changed my life. I talked a lot

718
00:23:36,250 --> 00:23:38,125
about it. I had I've been on TV for

719
00:23:38,125 --> 00:23:40,166
documentaries, which has been great. I've

720
00:23:40,166 --> 00:23:42,333
had podcasts, I did a hosting of the

721
00:23:42,333 --> 00:23:45,875
podcast, I hosted the Toronto Zoo podcast

722
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,708
for a couple of years, which was great.

723
00:23:48,041 --> 00:23:50,500
I've had job offers, which of course, the

724
00:23:50,500 --> 00:23:54,791
dream job is here. And I think the big

725
00:23:54,791 --> 00:23:58,250
thing is, is that I continue to do it. I

726
00:23:58,250 --> 00:24:00,416
just stayed consistent. You know, it

727
00:24:00,416 --> 00:24:02,166
wasn't I'm going to go to 1000, I'm going

728
00:24:02,166 --> 00:24:04,000
to go to 2000. It's like, I'm already

729
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,500
thinking of the next five episodes, I

730
00:24:05,541 --> 00:24:07,333
have the next like 10 episodes planned

731
00:24:07,333 --> 00:24:09,958
out. So I'm already beyond the 2000.

732
00:24:10,666 --> 00:24:12,416
You know, and I think that's important to

733
00:24:12,416 --> 00:24:14,541
say it's like, it's not just about the

734
00:24:14,541 --> 00:24:16,791
numbers. This is a big milestone for me

735
00:24:16,791 --> 00:24:18,666
in the podcasting industry, but it's not

736
00:24:19,041 --> 00:24:20,625
the fact that like, I'm going to stop at

737
00:24:20,625 --> 00:24:22,666
2000, I'm just going to continue to go.

738
00:24:23,166 --> 00:24:24,958
And whatever the frequency changes, the

739
00:24:24,958 --> 00:24:26,958
frequency changes, but I'm still going to

740
00:24:26,958 --> 00:24:29,041
be talking about ocean conservation. And

741
00:24:29,041 --> 00:24:31,500
I think that's, that's really an

742
00:24:31,500 --> 00:24:34,875
important part of the of the business

743
00:24:34,875 --> 00:24:37,833
really is is what we do

744
00:24:37,833 --> 00:24:40,041
with with our voice. You know,

745
00:24:40,041 --> 00:24:41,458
that's what how it started off as speak

746
00:24:41,458 --> 00:24:42,583
up for the ocean blue or

747
00:24:42,583 --> 00:24:44,750
speak up for blue is how can we

748
00:24:44,791 --> 00:24:48,625
talk about the ocean more, you know, it

749
00:24:48,625 --> 00:24:50,250
helps with our ocean anxiety

750
00:24:50,250 --> 00:24:51,750
and climate anxiety, be able to

751
00:24:51,750 --> 00:24:53,500
talk to people, whether we're in a debate

752
00:24:53,500 --> 00:24:55,750
or not being able to get the

753
00:24:55,750 --> 00:24:57,333
message out that ocean needs

754
00:24:57,375 --> 00:24:59,625
our protection and needs our help. And

755
00:24:59,625 --> 00:25:01,583
the first way to do that is to be able to

756
00:25:01,583 --> 00:25:04,541
talk about it. And so the podcasting

757
00:25:04,541 --> 00:25:06,458
medium is a great way to get the message

758
00:25:06,458 --> 00:25:09,375
out, not the best way to get the message

759
00:25:09,375 --> 00:25:11,208
back and continue that conversation.

760
00:25:11,541 --> 00:25:14,083
Although if you're on Spotify, you can

761
00:25:14,083 --> 00:25:17,750
you can comment and you can ask questions

762
00:25:17,750 --> 00:25:19,500
and so forth. I always I always ask that

763
00:25:19,500 --> 00:25:22,000
that happen. And so that's always great.

764
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,333
But and then of course, Ocean Decoded

765
00:25:24,333 --> 00:25:25,750
Live at four o'clock

766
00:25:25,750 --> 00:25:26,666
every Monday to Friday,

767
00:25:26,750 --> 00:25:29,333
at four o'clock Eastern, you can run that

768
00:25:29,333 --> 00:25:32,083
around that time, you can join me and we

769
00:25:32,083 --> 00:25:34,291
can talk about the ocean some more and

770
00:25:34,291 --> 00:25:35,666
then you can actually comment and I'll be

771
00:25:35,666 --> 00:25:37,000
right there listening to your comments.

772
00:25:37,666 --> 00:25:41,291
So this has been something that has been

773
00:25:41,291 --> 00:25:45,708
huge for me. This is a big step, not only

774
00:25:45,708 --> 00:25:48,291
for the 2000 but the 2000 episodes, but

775
00:25:48,291 --> 00:25:51,416
it's also the fact that I am licensing

776
00:25:51,416 --> 00:25:53,333
out how to protect the ocean with Pisces

777
00:25:53,333 --> 00:25:56,333
to make better quality shows for you and

778
00:25:56,333 --> 00:25:56,708
to increase the quality of the ocean.

779
00:25:56,750 --> 00:25:58,541
And so I think that's a great way to increase the ocean impact of the podcast,

780
00:25:58,791 --> 00:26:01,000
which has always been the goal, not only

781
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,250
just to talk about the ocean, but to have

782
00:26:03,250 --> 00:26:05,291
impact on the ocean, whether it's through

783
00:26:05,291 --> 00:26:07,375
others or by platforming others. That's

784
00:26:07,375 --> 00:26:09,125
always been the goal and will continue to

785
00:26:09,125 --> 00:26:12,041
be the goal as long as I'm living. And

786
00:26:12,041 --> 00:26:14,041
hopefully whoever takes over afterwards

787
00:26:14,041 --> 00:26:16,958
when I when I eventually stop because I'm

788
00:26:16,958 --> 00:26:19,000
not breathing anymore, which hopefully

789
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,958
will be for a very, very long time from

790
00:26:21,958 --> 00:26:24,583
now. But I think this is something where

791
00:26:24,583 --> 00:26:25,708
I'm excited to see where the future goes.

792
00:26:25,750 --> 00:26:30,125
This is definitely not the end. Only just

793
00:26:30,125 --> 00:26:33,500
beginning. So the thing that I want to do

794
00:26:33,500 --> 00:26:35,166
though right now is I just want to thank

795
00:26:35,166 --> 00:26:38,500
you for what you've been able to do for

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me for the people who have talked to me

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about how this show has impacted them who

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have supported me by listening to the

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episodes. Obviously not everyone don't

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expect everyone to listen to everyone.

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But the fact that you've given me that

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feedback, whether it's critique, whether

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it's great feedback, you know, in terms

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of how it affected your life, I always

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like hearing that, you know, always like

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hearing it in the reviews on Apple or if

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you reach out to me. I always love

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hearing these types of the type of

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feedback because it

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helps motivate me to do more.

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Podcasting is not an easy thing to do

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each and every week, especially five days

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a week. It takes up a lot of time. I have

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more time to do it. This shows getting

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better quality, but still takes up a lot

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of time. It takes a lot of

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creative space in my mind.

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And so this being able to do this for you

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is a privilege, but also I really

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appreciate the feedback you give whether

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you like something or you don't like

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something. I always

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like to hear that feed.

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But I want to thank you so much for

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supporting me through 2000 episodes.

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Whether you're with me through from

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episode one or you just started yesterday

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or you just started

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listening today, I do appreciate it.

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Tomorrow I'm going to be talking about

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YouTube and YouTube Live as a science

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communication platform. And then on

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Friday, we're going to be talking to Amy

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Weldon, who is launching her second

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season of the podcast, Blue Collar White

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Coat on second season. It's going to be

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great. You're going to want to listen to

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that interview because

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she's always wonderful.

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And we're both presenting at IMCC eight

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in Scotland in November. So if you're

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thinking about going there, come say hi

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to me as we are there. But thank you

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again for the support for those of you

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who reached out or will reach out. I

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really do appreciate

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everything you guys have done for me.

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All my social links are in the show

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notes. I want to thank you so much for

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joining me on this very special episode,

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two thousandth episode of the How to

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Protect the Ocean podcast. I'm your host,

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Andrew Lewin. Have a great day. We'll

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talk to you next time

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and happy conservation.