April 20, 2026

The System That Makes Ocean Problems Feel Like Your Fault

The System That Makes Ocean Problems Feel Like Your Fault
Apple Podcasts podcast player badge
Spotify podcast player badge
YouTube podcast player badge
Amazon Music podcast player badge
PocketCasts podcast player badge
Overcast podcast player badge
Apple Podcasts podcast player iconSpotify podcast player iconYouTube podcast player iconAmazon Music podcast player iconPocketCasts podcast player iconOvercast podcast player icon

Caring about the ocean should feel meaningful, so why does it often feel exhausting instead? In this episode, we unpack why so many people experience eco-anxiety, ocean overwhelm, and the sense that nothing they do matters.

You’ll learn why “do your part” messaging can backfire when collective problems are treated like personal failures. More importantly, you’ll hear what research and real-world experience show actually helps: community, collective action, and finding people who care alongside you.

If you’ve ever felt stuck, discouraged, or emotionally drained by environmental news, this episode offers a better path forward, one built on connection, momentum, and hope.

Follow How to Protect the Ocean for more weekday ocean science updates.

Transcript
1
00:00:00,009 --> 00:00:05,530
Why does caring about the Ocean sometimes
make you feel worse instead of better?

2
00:00:05,970 --> 00:00:09,930
You learn about plastic pollution,
coral bleaching, overfishing, rising

3
00:00:09,930 --> 00:00:14,290
Ocean temperatures, disappearing
species, and suddenly it feels

4
00:00:14,290 --> 00:00:16,856
like everything is broken.

5
00:00:17,196 --> 00:00:22,163
You care deeply, but the more
you care, the heavier it feels.

6
00:00:22,383 --> 00:00:24,303
So what are people supposed to do?

7
00:00:24,506 --> 00:00:25,526
They can shut down.

8
00:00:25,676 --> 00:00:26,876
They can scroll past it.

9
00:00:27,206 --> 00:00:29,996
They can tell themselves there's
really nothing they can do.

10
00:00:30,353 --> 00:00:32,993
But if you're feeling that
powerless, what if it isn't

11
00:00:32,993 --> 00:00:35,063
just because you care too much?

12
00:00:35,170 --> 00:00:39,069
What if it's because you've
been told to solve a collective

13
00:00:39,069 --> 00:00:41,229
problem all by yourself?

14
00:00:41,773 --> 00:00:45,233
This is the How to Protect the Ocean
Podcast, your weekly Ocean news update.

15
00:00:45,339 --> 00:00:49,089
If you care about staying informed
about the Ocean every weekday, hit

16
00:00:49,089 --> 00:00:52,330
that follow button right now so
you don't miss tomorrow's episode.

17
00:00:53,063 --> 00:00:56,889
We don't talk enough about how
many people are carrying the

18
00:00:56,889 --> 00:00:58,449
environmental stress right now.

19
00:00:58,449 --> 00:01:00,489
How many is it just
sitting on your shoulders?

20
00:01:00,489 --> 00:01:03,123
I know for time to
time it feels exhausting.

21
00:01:03,123 --> 00:01:04,713
Some call it climate anxiety.

22
00:01:04,713 --> 00:01:06,093
Some call it equal anxiety.

23
00:01:06,093 --> 00:01:09,663
Some call it Ocean anxiety, and
some people just call it exhaustion.

24
00:01:09,860 --> 00:01:11,690
And honestly, it makes sense.

25
00:01:11,990 --> 00:01:14,180
Every day we hear about another crisis.

26
00:01:14,210 --> 00:01:18,970
Marine heat waves, whale entanglements,
plastic pollution, coastal flooding,

27
00:01:19,110 --> 00:01:21,420
policy rollbacks, habitat loss.

28
00:01:21,420 --> 00:01:25,200
Even now as you are hearing this, you're
probably like, Andrew, what are you doing?

29
00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:26,923
This sounds like your regular podcast.

30
00:01:26,983 --> 00:01:28,003
Why are you telling me all this same?

31
00:01:28,003 --> 00:01:30,763
And I have to admit, like even last
week, if you heard any of last week's

32
00:01:30,763 --> 00:01:34,543
episode about Antarctica, about leopard
seals, about orcas, about emperor

33
00:01:34,543 --> 00:01:37,813
penguins, even about the glaciers
that we talked about in Antarctica last

34
00:01:37,813 --> 00:01:40,603
week, you probably felt the same thing.

35
00:01:40,943 --> 00:01:41,783
'Cause it was depressing.

36
00:01:41,993 --> 00:01:42,953
It was really depressing.

37
00:01:42,953 --> 00:01:47,833
Andrew, my brain is starting to ask
what difference can I actually make?

38
00:01:48,253 --> 00:01:52,573
Like should I recycle more, drive
less, buy less plastic, eat different

39
00:01:52,573 --> 00:01:55,213
seafood, never travel again?

40
00:01:55,363 --> 00:01:57,673
Like, is that what I'm supposed to do
if I'm not supposed to look at my phone?

41
00:01:57,673 --> 00:02:01,103
'cause like we know the politicians, those
types of politicians are like, well,

42
00:02:01,103 --> 00:02:04,793
if you use your phone, you're kind of
giving into the whole fossil fuel thing.

43
00:02:04,793 --> 00:02:04,943
Yeah.

44
00:02:04,943 --> 00:02:06,143
We know that, right?

45
00:02:06,143 --> 00:02:08,123
We know that's what they love to say.

46
00:02:08,123 --> 00:02:12,203
But we're in a system that's built
to just encourage that type of talk.

47
00:02:12,593 --> 00:02:17,430
The questions you're asking matter,
but they can also become a trap because

48
00:02:17,430 --> 00:02:21,810
when the problem is massive, personal
responsibility alone can feel crushing.

49
00:02:22,206 --> 00:02:24,516
It's really difficult to
do everything yourself.

50
00:02:24,546 --> 00:02:26,286
Like even in my own household.

51
00:02:26,543 --> 00:02:29,423
Like individuals, we always try and
be like, okay, is this recycling?

52
00:02:29,423 --> 00:02:30,300
Is this not recycling?

53
00:02:30,423 --> 00:02:33,153
It's tough to kind of like
decipher everything 'cause every

54
00:02:33,153 --> 00:02:34,318
piece of plastic is different.

55
00:02:34,986 --> 00:02:38,706
And so like when we're trying to recycle
and decide whether our region looks at

56
00:02:38,706 --> 00:02:42,810
this type of recycling or not, or they
come up with a complicated word for all

57
00:02:42,810 --> 00:02:44,620
this stuff and you're just like, well, is

58
00:02:44,620 --> 00:02:48,399
this the type of plastic it is, but it's
got a waxy feeling like maybe our region

59
00:02:48,399 --> 00:02:49,989
looks after it, like region of Halton.

60
00:02:49,989 --> 00:02:51,853
Maybe it does recycle
it, maybe it doesn't.

61
00:02:51,993 --> 00:02:54,633
It could be really complicated
to just do your part.

62
00:02:54,936 --> 00:02:59,766
For years, environmental messaging has
focused on one thing, do your part, and

63
00:02:59,766 --> 00:03:02,916
yes, individual choices actually matter.

64
00:03:02,916 --> 00:03:05,016
I don't want you to think that it doesn't.

65
00:03:05,290 --> 00:03:07,060
You still should bring a reusable bottle.

66
00:03:07,060 --> 00:03:08,350
You should reduce waste.

67
00:03:08,350 --> 00:03:10,076
You should choose better products.

68
00:03:10,146 --> 00:03:12,340
You should support sustainable businesses.

69
00:03:12,513 --> 00:03:13,863
All are good things.

70
00:03:13,863 --> 00:03:15,006
But here is the problem.

71
00:03:15,611 --> 00:03:19,231
When individual action is presented
as the main solution, people start

72
00:03:19,231 --> 00:03:24,061
believing that if the Ocean is still in
trouble, they must not be doing enough.

73
00:03:24,061 --> 00:03:25,681
Like imagine you do everything right.

74
00:03:25,681 --> 00:03:26,995
You reduce your garbage.

75
00:03:27,088 --> 00:03:30,208
You have a reusable bottle,
like the kids do that.

76
00:03:30,273 --> 00:03:31,413
Adults do that as well.

77
00:03:31,413 --> 00:03:34,503
You buy an EV car, maybe you buy
solar panels or things like that,

78
00:03:34,503 --> 00:03:37,376
and you still look around and you're
like, uh, yeah, it's still terrible.

79
00:03:37,658 --> 00:03:42,161
When an individual action is presented as
the main solution and doesn't work, people

80
00:03:42,161 --> 00:03:43,541
start to be like, well, hold on a second.

81
00:03:43,895 --> 00:03:45,995
It creates guilt, not momentum.

82
00:03:45,995 --> 00:03:47,555
It doesn't create a movement.

83
00:03:47,935 --> 00:03:51,085
I interviewed Sarah Fetterman just this
week, and you're gonna hear it on Friday.

84
00:03:51,085 --> 00:03:54,875
And one of the powerful points that was
made is that a lot of the pain people

85
00:03:54,875 --> 00:03:59,978
feel comes from collective problems,
but we often try to solve the pain with

86
00:03:59,978 --> 00:04:04,378
individual action, and that mismatch
actually matters because no reusable

87
00:04:04,378 --> 00:04:07,428
straw can replace strong fisheries policy.

88
00:04:07,718 --> 00:04:08,678
Imagine that.

89
00:04:08,988 --> 00:04:12,048
We say, oh, well, you should be
drinking out of a paper straw.

90
00:04:12,048 --> 00:04:12,948
Nobody likes that.

91
00:04:12,948 --> 00:04:13,818
We all know that.

92
00:04:14,008 --> 00:04:16,408
No single person can stop illegal fishing.

93
00:04:16,808 --> 00:04:18,728
No one family can restore an estuary.

94
00:04:19,028 --> 00:04:22,178
No one consumer can
regulate offshore drilling.

95
00:04:22,568 --> 00:04:26,108
The issue is not that
personal actions are useless.

96
00:04:26,391 --> 00:04:28,191
It's that they are incomplete.

97
00:04:28,568 --> 00:04:29,858
So what works, andrew?

98
00:04:29,858 --> 00:04:31,898
Like what are we talking about here?

99
00:04:31,994 --> 00:04:33,494
We're talking about collective action.

100
00:04:33,943 --> 00:04:37,863
Research discussed in the interview that
I highlighted earlier, that anxiety

101
00:04:37,863 --> 00:04:41,553
around environmental issues can shift when
people work with others to take action.

102
00:04:41,779 --> 00:04:43,309
That's what makes sense.

103
00:04:43,309 --> 00:04:46,933
Not individual action, not just working
on your own, but collective action.

104
00:04:46,933 --> 00:04:49,153
When you act with others,
you share the burden.

105
00:04:49,458 --> 00:04:52,158
You feel the momentum, you see progress.

106
00:04:52,158 --> 00:04:55,164
You build those relationships,
you stop feeling alone.

107
00:04:55,344 --> 00:04:58,704
Imagine just cleaning up your
neighborhood with a community, with

108
00:04:58,704 --> 00:05:00,444
your neighborhood, like your neighbors.

109
00:05:00,534 --> 00:05:03,384
Imagine just going out and being
like, Hey, this is kind of cool.

110
00:05:03,384 --> 00:05:05,101
Like we're actually
getting to know each other.

111
00:05:05,184 --> 00:05:06,204
We're building relationships.

112
00:05:06,384 --> 00:05:10,644
Not only that, we're seeing our neighbors
collectively come together and say, yeah,

113
00:05:10,704 --> 00:05:12,174
no, to pollution in our neighborhood.

114
00:05:12,609 --> 00:05:15,793
'Cause like, I don't know if you guys
have it, I know I keep going to garbage,

115
00:05:15,793 --> 00:05:17,383
but when is garbage day here at my house?

116
00:05:17,383 --> 00:05:18,073
It's every Monday.

117
00:05:18,363 --> 00:05:21,199
It seems like it's the
windiest fricking day ever.

118
00:05:21,408 --> 00:05:23,658
So all the recycling gets blown over.

119
00:05:23,708 --> 00:05:26,573
I come home from after work or
I go out, I work from home now.

120
00:05:26,653 --> 00:05:30,343
I go outside after work to get my
garbage pails and recycling bins and

121
00:05:30,343 --> 00:05:33,103
everything, and I bring 'em inside
and I look on my front lawn and I

122
00:05:33,103 --> 00:05:35,203
see garbage that's not from my bins.

123
00:05:35,203 --> 00:05:36,313
I know it's not from my bins.

124
00:05:36,313 --> 00:05:38,233
I don't use those products
and I see it from others.

125
00:05:38,243 --> 00:05:40,173
So like all of a sudden you're
like, why are the neighbors

126
00:05:40,173 --> 00:05:41,013
putting stuff on my lawn?

127
00:05:41,013 --> 00:05:43,773
But it's really just the wind
from the garbage, and that's how

128
00:05:43,773 --> 00:05:44,853
it gets around the neighborhood.

129
00:05:44,853 --> 00:05:48,093
If you don't pick it up and it's somebody
else's garbage, but it's on your property.

130
00:05:48,093 --> 00:05:51,003
Or like, you know, my neighbor,
my neighbor's elderly.

131
00:05:51,003 --> 00:05:53,683
She's a great woman, but she's
not gonna go out every day and

132
00:05:53,683 --> 00:05:55,123
pick up trash off her lawn.

133
00:05:55,123 --> 00:05:56,923
So like, as a neighborhood, we
kind of look out for each other.

134
00:05:56,923 --> 00:05:58,303
We kind of pick up that stuff.

135
00:05:58,493 --> 00:06:01,496
And to be honest, like a lot of the times
I should be, as I walk the dogs in the

136
00:06:01,496 --> 00:06:03,029
neighborhood, I should pick up the stuff.

137
00:06:03,029 --> 00:06:05,733
But sometimes when you're doing it alone,
you're like, why am I always doing this?

138
00:06:05,809 --> 00:06:06,829
Why isn't anybody else doing this?

139
00:06:06,829 --> 00:06:10,729
So if you do it as a community, go to a
beach cleanup, do a river cleanup in your

140
00:06:10,729 --> 00:06:12,469
neighborhood, whatever that might be.

141
00:06:12,646 --> 00:06:15,166
It's huge because you're
not doing it alone.

142
00:06:15,166 --> 00:06:18,163
And that last point that I
made, you stop feeling alone.

143
00:06:18,316 --> 00:06:22,483
That's a huge one because
isolation magnifies the fear.

144
00:06:22,713 --> 00:06:25,233
Community creates the actual resilience.

145
00:06:25,436 --> 00:06:29,186
Speaking up with others feels
different than worrying about yourself.

146
00:06:29,186 --> 00:06:32,963
Now for a long, long time, for
11 years, I've been podcasting.

147
00:06:33,503 --> 00:06:37,733
And I've been sitting in my office
normally doing solo episodes by myself.

148
00:06:37,856 --> 00:06:41,596
And when I know that there are other
people that are starting podcasts, when

149
00:06:41,596 --> 00:06:44,623
I know that there are other people who
are doing the great work, it's awesome,

150
00:06:44,623 --> 00:06:45,943
but they're doing it on their own.

151
00:06:45,943 --> 00:06:47,503
And sometimes that can feel isolating.

152
00:06:47,503 --> 00:06:48,373
It's not their fault.

153
00:06:48,373 --> 00:06:49,169
It's not my fault.

154
00:06:49,289 --> 00:06:51,029
It just feels isolating 'cause
you're doing it on their own.

155
00:06:51,029 --> 00:06:52,239
You're speaking up on your own.

156
00:06:52,349 --> 00:06:54,303
I've talked about this a
number of times on my podcast.

157
00:06:54,436 --> 00:06:58,583
I joined a group of, like a coalition
of other science communicators.

158
00:06:58,719 --> 00:07:01,033
Most of them are in the US
but some of us are in Canada.

159
00:07:01,199 --> 00:07:04,649
And we get together every once in
a while and we collectively as a

160
00:07:04,649 --> 00:07:08,919
coalition, collaborate on science
communication posts, whether it

161
00:07:08,919 --> 00:07:12,109
be on Instagram, on LinkedIn, on
a podcast, or anything like that.

162
00:07:12,179 --> 00:07:13,229
And we come together and do it.

163
00:07:13,229 --> 00:07:15,209
And when I see other people
doing the same work that I'm

164
00:07:15,209 --> 00:07:16,603
doing, it makes me feel so good.

165
00:07:17,338 --> 00:07:20,188
Showing up to a meeting feels
different than doom scrolling.

166
00:07:20,528 --> 00:07:24,044
Joining a cleanup feels different
than reading another headline.

167
00:07:24,314 --> 00:07:28,454
It's always something that makes
it worse when you do it alone.

168
00:07:28,638 --> 00:07:32,208
Even learning together feels
different than panicking alone.

169
00:07:32,508 --> 00:07:35,178
Some of these news articles,
man, they are dangerous.

170
00:07:35,208 --> 00:07:36,668
They are dangerous.

171
00:07:36,804 --> 00:07:40,168
They either like over blow what's
happening just so you can click

172
00:07:40,168 --> 00:07:41,788
on it, but it makes you scared.

173
00:07:41,788 --> 00:07:43,884
And people do not wanna
see doom and gloom.

174
00:07:44,051 --> 00:07:46,571
They wanna see optimism, they
wanna see that there's hope.

175
00:07:46,571 --> 00:07:47,871
They wanna see people working.

176
00:07:47,998 --> 00:07:51,018
And when you start to read more optimistic
things, not that everything in the Ocean

177
00:07:51,018 --> 00:07:53,874
is optimistic, but when you start to
read those things, it really helps.

178
00:07:54,639 --> 00:07:57,246
So what does collective
action actually look like?

179
00:07:57,246 --> 00:07:58,356
I've talked a little bit about it.

180
00:07:58,499 --> 00:08:01,499
It does not have to mean chaining
yourself to a bulldozer or

181
00:08:01,499 --> 00:08:03,119
becoming a full-time activist.

182
00:08:03,119 --> 00:08:04,319
No, you don't have to do that.

183
00:08:04,526 --> 00:08:07,316
Sometimes it looks like maybe
joining a local conservation group.

184
00:08:07,966 --> 00:08:10,426
Or starting a local
conservation group yourself.

185
00:08:10,643 --> 00:08:13,043
Back in the day we used to
have just community watch.

186
00:08:13,073 --> 00:08:16,183
And that would just be like everybody else
is like, you know, they had two parents

187
00:08:16,183 --> 00:08:19,153
would walk along the neighborhood at
night just to make sure everything's fine.

188
00:08:19,153 --> 00:08:20,773
Nobody's getting broken into.

189
00:08:20,826 --> 00:08:22,356
Everybody's looking out for each other.

190
00:08:22,529 --> 00:08:25,589
They know the neighborhood, they know
the kids, they know the families.

191
00:08:25,749 --> 00:08:27,339
And they kind of just
look out for each other.

192
00:08:27,339 --> 00:08:30,099
Imagine doing like a community
watch, but for oceans.

193
00:08:30,216 --> 00:08:33,569
Doing beach cleanups, wetland
restoration, shoreline stewardship,

194
00:08:33,693 --> 00:08:34,983
maybe some citizen science.

195
00:08:34,983 --> 00:08:36,153
Sounds like a lot of fun.

196
00:08:36,309 --> 00:08:40,166
You can support advocacy campaigns,
sending comments on Marine protected

197
00:08:40,166 --> 00:08:43,549
areas, writing elected officials,
backing science-based policy.

198
00:08:43,549 --> 00:08:45,044
All these things are really great.

199
00:08:45,614 --> 00:08:49,034
Community science, track species
sightings, which is kind of cool.

200
00:08:49,034 --> 00:08:50,474
I know I have a neighbor
here who's a birder.

201
00:08:50,474 --> 00:08:51,948
He takes pictures of the birds too.

202
00:08:52,148 --> 00:08:53,654
It's just incredible pictures.

203
00:08:53,834 --> 00:08:54,884
Water quality monitoring.

204
00:08:54,884 --> 00:08:56,144
You can always get part of that.

205
00:08:56,204 --> 00:08:58,034
Reef observations if you live near one.

206
00:08:58,034 --> 00:08:59,054
Unfortunately, I don't.

207
00:08:59,211 --> 00:09:00,681
You can share skills.

208
00:09:00,838 --> 00:09:02,968
There's no stopping it.

209
00:09:02,998 --> 00:09:06,028
Maybe you're a teacher, a designer,
an accountant, a communicator,

210
00:09:06,028 --> 00:09:07,444
a photographer, a coder.

211
00:09:07,588 --> 00:09:11,788
All those skills can help Ocean
organizations make more than you think.

212
00:09:12,068 --> 00:09:13,208
Can help more than you think.

213
00:09:13,478 --> 00:09:17,123
Being part of a learning
community, and yes.

214
00:09:17,946 --> 00:09:20,286
Even this podcast can be a part of that.

215
00:09:20,526 --> 00:09:23,556
Every time you listen or you share
an episode, you send a story to a

216
00:09:23,556 --> 00:09:26,999
friend, or you start a conversation,
you're helping build a network

217
00:09:26,999 --> 00:09:28,589
of people who actually care.

218
00:09:28,589 --> 00:09:32,199
Imagine taking this and having a
conversation with your family about it.

219
00:09:32,199 --> 00:09:36,429
Just taking this episode and just talking
about Ocean anxiety, climate anxiety.

220
00:09:36,693 --> 00:09:38,643
That matters because it
gets people thinking.

221
00:09:38,893 --> 00:09:41,233
You're having an intellectual
conversation on something

222
00:09:41,233 --> 00:09:42,943
that's happening to all of us.

223
00:09:43,163 --> 00:09:47,153
Because movements are made of connected
people, not the perfect people.

224
00:09:47,153 --> 00:09:50,603
It doesn't have to be the best
thing that comes out of everything.

225
00:09:50,929 --> 00:09:53,179
So here's the shift I want
you to remember today.

226
00:09:53,389 --> 00:09:57,616
I don't want you to just ask,
what habit should I change?

227
00:09:57,896 --> 00:09:59,846
I want you to ask, who can I join?

228
00:10:00,216 --> 00:10:02,106
The question changes everything.

229
00:10:02,561 --> 00:10:06,281
Instead of carrying the Ocean
on your shoulders, you become

230
00:10:06,281 --> 00:10:07,454
part of something bigger.

231
00:10:07,454 --> 00:10:09,584
Instead of guilt, you get direction.

232
00:10:09,854 --> 00:10:12,074
Instead of helplessness,
you get a movement.

233
00:10:12,361 --> 00:10:15,601
Instead of anxiety, you get an agency.

234
00:10:15,918 --> 00:10:18,558
And no, it's not gonna
fix everything overnight.

235
00:10:18,801 --> 00:10:21,741
And joining a newsletter of an
organization who's always asking

236
00:10:21,741 --> 00:10:24,276
you for money so they can do
more work is also not gonna help.

237
00:10:24,899 --> 00:10:26,399
You have to get involved.

238
00:10:26,399 --> 00:10:27,629
You have to join something.

239
00:10:27,629 --> 00:10:29,009
Look for something that can get involved.

240
00:10:29,009 --> 00:10:31,169
And if there's nothing
around, start something.

241
00:10:31,409 --> 00:10:33,239
There's nothing stopping
you from starting something.

242
00:10:33,239 --> 00:10:35,429
It could be volunteer, it could
be a business, it could be

243
00:10:35,429 --> 00:10:36,839
whatever you decide it to be.

244
00:10:37,109 --> 00:10:38,459
But it will change how you feel.

245
00:10:38,459 --> 00:10:42,359
It can change what becomes possible next.

246
00:10:42,719 --> 00:10:46,564
So if caring about the Ocean has
you making you feel worse lately,

247
00:10:46,564 --> 00:10:47,914
there's nothing wrong with you.

248
00:10:48,064 --> 00:10:53,131
You're reacting to a real problem, but
you were never meant to carry it alone.

249
00:10:53,424 --> 00:10:54,414
Find your people.

250
00:10:54,534 --> 00:10:55,464
Join the effort.

251
00:10:55,674 --> 00:10:57,804
Take one step at a time with others.

252
00:10:58,064 --> 00:11:00,434
That is the change that starts.

253
00:11:00,824 --> 00:11:03,494
That is the hope that becomes real.

254
00:11:03,828 --> 00:11:06,348
I wanna leave you with that
message because this is gonna be an

255
00:11:06,348 --> 00:11:09,011
inspiration of episodes this week.

256
00:11:09,011 --> 00:11:13,301
We're gonna be talking about the
realism of what it's like to do Ocean

257
00:11:13,301 --> 00:11:16,754
conservation, what it's like to be an
Ocean conservationist, whether you're

258
00:11:16,754 --> 00:11:20,714
a scientist, whether you do it as a
full-time career, whether you just

259
00:11:20,804 --> 00:11:24,794
care about the Ocean and you want
to see something done to protect it.

260
00:11:24,864 --> 00:11:27,834
You care about the planet, you care
about the climate, and you wanna see

261
00:11:27,834 --> 00:11:29,111
something help because let's be honest.

262
00:11:29,264 --> 00:11:30,164
Climate is Ocean.

263
00:11:30,164 --> 00:11:31,334
Ocean is climate change.

264
00:11:31,424 --> 00:11:32,474
It's all the same.

265
00:11:32,648 --> 00:11:33,578
Even more so.

266
00:11:33,788 --> 00:11:36,886
So when you go to a climate week
next time, you make sure you say,

267
00:11:36,886 --> 00:11:38,236
Hey, where's this Ocean stuff?

268
00:11:38,296 --> 00:11:39,466
Because ocean's a huge thing.

269
00:11:39,569 --> 00:11:40,889
But do it in a community.

270
00:11:40,979 --> 00:11:42,089
Join that community.

271
00:11:42,329 --> 00:11:44,549
Surf rider, great community to join.

272
00:11:44,793 --> 00:11:45,153
All right.

273
00:11:45,273 --> 00:11:48,483
I'd love to hear if you join a
community or you started something

274
00:11:48,483 --> 00:11:49,563
that has to do with the Ocean.

275
00:11:49,563 --> 00:11:50,883
I'd love to hear your thoughts.

276
00:11:50,883 --> 00:11:53,673
Go to speak up for blue.com/feedback.

277
00:11:53,703 --> 00:11:56,529
If you're listening to this
on Spotify, leave a comment.

278
00:11:56,529 --> 00:11:58,036
I'd love to hear your thoughts.

279
00:11:58,146 --> 00:11:59,646
' Cause this is an inspirational week.

280
00:11:59,646 --> 00:12:02,846
This is a week that I want you to get
up and I want you to get out there

281
00:12:02,846 --> 00:12:06,189
and I want you to do something about
it, about the Ocean, about the planet.

282
00:12:06,189 --> 00:12:06,879
It's Earth Week.

283
00:12:07,154 --> 00:12:10,038
It's Earth Week this week and
I want you to feel like it.

284
00:12:10,038 --> 00:12:13,878
I don't usually do stuff like around Earth
Week, but this week is something special

285
00:12:13,908 --> 00:12:18,521
'cause we're seeing a lot of stuff go on
around the world that is really concerning

286
00:12:18,613 --> 00:12:21,463
especially around the environment,
a lot of rollbacks happening in the

287
00:12:21,463 --> 00:12:24,609
environment, not only in the states,
but also in Canada and elsewhere.

288
00:12:24,793 --> 00:12:25,873
We need to protect the Ocean.

289
00:12:25,873 --> 00:12:27,883
We need to make sure those
regulations are in place 'cause they

290
00:12:27,883 --> 00:12:29,263
are in place to protect the Ocean.

291
00:12:29,263 --> 00:12:30,203
We just celebrated.

292
00:12:30,316 --> 00:12:33,556
I believe it was like 50 years
of the Magnuson-Stevensons Act,

293
00:12:33,556 --> 00:12:34,816
which is the big Fisheries Act

294
00:12:34,816 --> 00:12:35,416
in the US.

295
00:12:35,416 --> 00:12:38,739
It has brought back a lot of
fisheries in the US to be sustainable.

296
00:12:38,739 --> 00:12:40,349
So happy to celebrate that.

297
00:12:40,436 --> 00:12:42,206
But also we need to celebrate this Ocean.

298
00:12:42,206 --> 00:12:43,436
We need to celebrate this planet.

299
00:12:43,436 --> 00:12:46,106
We need to do something about
it by joining a community.

300
00:12:46,106 --> 00:12:49,586
So I wanna thank you so much for
joining me on today's episode

301
00:12:49,586 --> 00:12:50,756
and I want to hear your thoughts.

302
00:12:50,756 --> 00:12:53,069
Speak up for blue.com/feedback.

303
00:12:53,199 --> 00:12:54,309
I'm your host, Andrew Lewin.

304
00:12:54,309 --> 00:12:54,909
Have a great day.

305
00:12:54,909 --> 00:12:57,279
We'll talk to you next time
and happy conservation.