What Lives in the Middle of the Ocean?

1
00:00:01,474 --> 00:00:02,715
yeah, Michelle, back again.

2
00:00:02,715 --> 00:00:07,702
we're gonna be talking about deep sea species that were discovered off the coast of
Brazil, I believe.

3
00:00:07,883 --> 00:00:10,976
Um so yeah, let's get to it.

4
00:00:14,018 --> 00:00:14,959
Picture this.

5
00:00:14,959 --> 00:00:18,300
You're in a control room on a ship, far off the coast of Brazil.

6
00:00:18,300 --> 00:00:19,801
It's pretty dark outside.

7
00:00:19,801 --> 00:00:21,843
It's darker even below you.

8
00:00:21,843 --> 00:00:23,503
It's even darker below you.

9
00:00:23,503 --> 00:00:32,528
A robot the size of a small car is sinking through the black water, a thousand meters
down, its lights carving a tunnel through the dark.

10
00:00:32,849 --> 00:00:34,750
And then something drifts into frame.

11
00:00:34,750 --> 00:00:38,812
Big, pale, arms unfurling like a parachute.

12
00:00:38,812 --> 00:00:40,153
It's an octopus.

13
00:00:40,153 --> 00:00:42,360
A giant open ocean octopus.

14
00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:46,933
That almost no one has ever seen alive, and she's eating a jellyfish.

15
00:00:47,173 --> 00:00:54,098
The scientists in that room go quiet because this is an animal they mostly know from the
dead specimens hauled up in the nets.

16
00:00:54,138 --> 00:00:58,621
And here she is, alive, feeding, and real.

17
00:00:59,382 --> 00:01:02,183
That moment actually happened recently.

18
00:01:02,203 --> 00:01:10,128
It's a part of a much bigger story about the biggest living speci about the bit about the
biggest living space on the planet.

19
00:01:10,169 --> 00:01:12,540
A place where we have barely looked at.

20
00:01:12,578 --> 00:01:15,954
and a decision the world is about to make about his future.

21
00:01:19,114 --> 00:01:20,554
Let's get into it.

22
00:01:21,435 --> 00:01:23,246
Welcome to the How to Protect the Ocean Podcast.

23
00:01:23,246 --> 00:01:29,659
I'm your host, Andrew Lew, and this is a show where you we turn ocean science into action
that you can actually take.

24
00:01:29,659 --> 00:01:34,451
If this is your kind of thing, do me a quick favor and hit that follow button right now,
wherever you're listening.

25
00:01:34,451 --> 00:01:40,863
It's free, it tells the algorithm this stuff matters, and it means you won't miss the next
episode.

26
00:01:41,584 --> 00:01:44,045
So here's the question I want to answer today.

27
00:01:44,045 --> 00:01:46,376
What lives in the middle of the ocean?

28
00:01:46,476 --> 00:01:51,048
Why does it even matter to you even if you never go into the deep sea?

29
00:01:52,129 --> 00:01:55,111
Why does it matter to you even if you never go into the deep sea?

30
00:01:55,111 --> 00:02:03,055
And what can one person actually do to protect a three kilometers, to protect a place
three kilometers underwater?

31
00:02:03,296 --> 00:02:10,579
Now stick with me because the at the end of this episode you're gonna see the ocean's
biggest neighborhood is a complete in a completely different way.

32
00:02:11,060 --> 00:02:12,341
I'm gonna do say that again.

33
00:02:12,341 --> 00:02:13,355
Now stick with me.

34
00:02:13,355 --> 00:02:18,630
Because at the end of this episode, you're going to see the ocean's biggest neighborhood
in a completely different way.

35
00:02:18,630 --> 00:02:23,353
And I've got a few simple, honest things that you can do this week to help protect it.

36
00:02:24,034 --> 00:02:25,495
One story today.

37
00:02:26,216 --> 00:02:27,437
One story today.

38
00:02:27,437 --> 00:02:28,218
Let's get into it.

39
00:02:28,218 --> 00:02:29,079
Let's tell it.

40
00:02:29,079 --> 00:02:32,021
One story today, but we're going tell it in three parts.

41
00:02:32,041 --> 00:02:34,523
So part one is the dive.

42
00:02:34,704 --> 00:02:37,365
The ship is called Falkor 2.

43
00:02:37,646 --> 00:02:41,045
It's run by the Schmidt Ocean Institute, a group of du

44
00:02:41,077 --> 00:02:46,780
A group that does deep sea research and importantly streams a lot of it online for free.

45
00:02:46,900 --> 00:02:52,964
On this expedition off the coast of the B off the coast of Brazil, they sent down a
remotely operated vehicle.

46
00:02:52,964 --> 00:03:04,410
The deep sea robot named Sub Subastian, S U Subastion, tethered to the ship by a long
cable that feeds its power that feeds it power and sends video back in real time.

47
00:03:04,410 --> 00:03:08,052
They weren't diving to the seafloor, they were exploring the midwater.

48
00:03:08,052 --> 00:03:10,753
That's the open water between the sunlight surf.

49
00:03:10,753 --> 00:03:14,295
That's the open water between the sunlit surface and the bottom.

50
00:03:14,295 --> 00:03:20,557
Think of it as the ocean's middle, not the shallows, not the seabed, the vast in between.

51
00:03:21,317 --> 00:03:27,960
And what they found, and what they found there was a parade of animals, many of them brand
new to science.

52
00:03:28,060 --> 00:03:31,521
More than two dozen species that had never been seen.

53
00:03:31,782 --> 00:03:35,023
More than two dozen species that had never been formally described.

54
00:03:35,023 --> 00:03:39,895
New jellyfish, comb jellies, which shimmer, new jellyfish.

55
00:03:39,895 --> 00:03:48,347
comb jellies which shimmer and ripple as they beat down at the as they beat rows of their
tiny hairs like a living rainbow.

56
00:03:50,232 --> 00:03:58,246
Siphonophores, strange colonial creatures that string out through the water, that string
out through the water like a chain of beads.

57
00:03:58,447 --> 00:04:01,528
Tadpole-like animals called larvatians.

58
00:04:01,828 --> 00:04:08,312
A gosimer worm that glows and a tiny crustacean and a tiny crustacean called amphipod.

59
00:04:08,312 --> 00:04:11,273
And a tiny crustacean called an amphipod.

60
00:04:11,694 --> 00:04:18,437
They spotted a young glass squid completely see-through hanging in the water about 780
meters down.

61
00:04:18,647 --> 00:04:25,641
They filmed a dinner plate jellyfish hunting a comb jelly, swimming with his tentacles
held out in front like a net.

62
00:04:26,022 --> 00:04:28,724
And then there was the octopus.

63
00:04:29,284 --> 00:04:33,047
Her name scientifically is Halifron Atlanticus.

64
00:04:33,747 --> 00:04:37,590
She's an open ocean species, which is unusual for an octopus.

65
00:04:37,590 --> 00:04:40,112
Most octopuses live on the bottom.

66
00:04:40,112 --> 00:04:43,914
This one lives on the outer water column, and she's big.

67
00:04:43,914 --> 00:04:47,925
The body they filmed, just the main part, was part

68
00:04:47,925 --> 00:04:50,286
Was about the length of your forearm.

69
00:04:50,287 --> 00:04:59,854
But this species can grow to around four meters from arm from arm tip to arm tip and weigh
as much as a grown adult.

70
00:04:59,955 --> 00:05:02,496
Roughly 75 kilograms.

71
00:05:03,378 --> 00:05:05,760
Here's why the team got so excited.

72
00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:14,246
Almost everything we know about this animal, almost everything we know about this animal
comes from specimens caught in nets, dead, crushed.

73
00:05:14,647 --> 00:05:17,579
So what's one so watching one alive?

74
00:05:17,579 --> 00:05:22,472
At around 800 meters, calmly eating a red jellyfish, that's rare.

75
00:05:22,493 --> 00:05:26,335
That's a window into the behavior we almost never get to see.

76
00:05:26,976 --> 00:05:28,918
Now, one thing I want to point out.

77
00:05:28,918 --> 00:05:30,209
Now, one thing I want to point out.

78
00:05:30,209 --> 00:05:32,641
They just didn't aim a camera and guess.

79
00:05:32,641 --> 00:05:42,188
They used imaging systems built at the Monterey Bay Aquarium Research Institute, including
a laser scanner that can capture the 3D shape of soft of a soft, transparent animal

80
00:05:42,188 --> 00:05:43,729
without ever touching it.

81
00:05:44,066 --> 00:05:48,768
And they ran genetic analysis on some samples to confirm new species fast.

82
00:05:49,428 --> 00:05:52,789
So this is a new way of doing deep sea biology.

83
00:05:52,850 --> 00:05:54,390
Look, don't grab.

84
00:05:54,390 --> 00:05:56,411
Scan, don't destroy.

85
00:05:56,411 --> 00:06:02,113
For fragile animals that fall apart the second you put them in a net, that's a big deal.

86
00:06:02,266 --> 00:06:03,914
Now, part two.

87
00:06:04,014 --> 00:06:11,847
This now, part two, why this matters, and this is where it gets, and this is where it gets
bigger than a cool octopus video.

88
00:06:12,779 --> 00:06:20,272
The chief scientist of this expedition, Karen Osborne, from the Sims from the Smithsonian,
called the midwater the largest habitat on Earth.

89
00:06:20,272 --> 00:06:25,854
And she's right, by volume, the open midwater is the biggest living space on the planet.

90
00:06:25,854 --> 00:06:29,396
It's the most room that life on Earth actually has.

91
00:06:29,396 --> 00:06:31,616
And we've barely even seen it.

92
00:06:31,757 --> 00:06:33,538
Here's a number that stopped me cold.

93
00:06:33,538 --> 00:06:42,483
A study published in 2025 in the journal Science Advances tried to work out how much of
the deep sea floor humans have actually looked at with cameras.

94
00:06:42,483 --> 00:06:44,115
Not mapped from above.

95
00:06:44,115 --> 00:06:45,978
Actually seen with our own eyes.

96
00:06:45,978 --> 00:06:46,618
The answer?

97
00:06:46,618 --> 00:06:49,261
Less than one thousandth of a percent.

98
00:06:49,422 --> 00:06:50,502
0.001%.

99
00:06:54,209 --> 00:07:05,889
The researchers said that a patch of deep seafloor The researchers said that's a patch of
deep seafloor smaller than the state of Rhode Island for the entire global ocean across

100
00:07:05,889 --> 00:07:08,391
nearly seventy years of exploration.

101
00:07:12,203 --> 00:07:14,514
And the little we have seen is lobsided.

102
00:07:14,514 --> 00:07:27,762
That same study looked at around 44%, about around 44,000 deep sea dives, and found that
above, and found that about two-thirds of all the visual observations were clustered near

103
00:07:27,762 --> 00:07:31,523
just three countries: the United States, Japan, and New Zealand.

104
00:07:31,804 --> 00:07:34,685
So we're not just missing most of the deep ocean.

105
00:07:34,685 --> 00:07:39,628
We're trying to understand a global system from a tiny bias sample.

106
00:07:40,289 --> 00:07:41,483
That's the seafloor.

107
00:07:41,483 --> 00:07:46,302
The midwater above it is even harder to reach and even less explored.

108
00:07:46,302 --> 00:07:51,812
So when the team goes to Brazil and finds two dozen new species in a matter of weeks,
that's not a fluke.

109
00:07:51,812 --> 00:07:55,047
That's the normal result of finally looking somewhere new.

110
00:07:56,726 --> 00:08:01,810
Okay, but maybe you're thinking, that's fascinating, but these are tiny jellies three
kilometers down.

111
00:08:01,810 --> 00:08:03,331
Why should I care?

112
00:08:03,331 --> 00:08:04,232
Here's why.

113
00:08:04,232 --> 00:08:08,275
These animals are running a system that keeps our planet livable.

114
00:08:08,356 --> 00:08:11,398
You've probably heard the ocean called the planet's lungs.

115
00:08:11,398 --> 00:08:12,729
Here's the part that people miss.

116
00:08:12,729 --> 00:08:18,604
A reason the ocean pulls carbon out of the atmosphere is because of the animals in that
midwater.

117
00:08:18,604 --> 00:08:21,926
Tiny plankton at the surface soak up carbon dioxide.

118
00:08:21,926 --> 00:08:25,649
They get eaten and package into waste and dead material.

119
00:08:25,707 --> 00:08:27,037
And it all sinks.

120
00:08:27,037 --> 00:08:31,859
Little animals in the midwater grab it, eat it, repackage it, and drive it deeper.

121
00:08:31,859 --> 00:08:39,321
Some of them even swim up to feed at night and sink back down by the day, carrying carbon
with them like a conveyor belt.

122
00:08:39,721 --> 00:08:44,542
Scientists call this biological scientists call this the biological carbon pump.

123
00:08:44,542 --> 00:08:46,743
And the scale is enormous.

124
00:08:46,763 --> 00:08:55,255
Estimates vary from study to study, but the ocean's biological pump moves somewhere
between 5 and 12 million tons of carbon from the surface toward the

125
00:08:55,255 --> 00:08:57,946
Deep every single year.

126
00:08:58,466 --> 00:09:01,747
A lot of the carbon can stay locked away for a century or more.

127
00:09:01,747 --> 00:09:11,910
With those midwater animals doing what with those midwater without those midwater animals
doing the work, without those midwater animals doing that work, there would be far more

128
00:09:11,910 --> 00:09:13,030
carbon dioxide.

129
00:09:13,030 --> 00:09:18,352
There would be far more carbon dioxide sitting on our atmosphere, sitting in our
atmosphere right now.

130
00:09:18,672 --> 00:09:22,701
So those weird, fragile, glowing animals off the coast of Brazil.

131
00:09:22,701 --> 00:09:26,803
So those weird, fragile, glowing animals off the coast of Brazil, they're not just a
sideshow.

132
00:09:26,803 --> 00:09:30,605
They're part of a machinery that regulates the climate you live in.

133
00:09:30,605 --> 00:09:38,299
And they're a b and they're food base for the fish, and they're a food base for the fish,
the squid, and the whales that a lot of people depend on.

134
00:09:40,014 --> 00:09:40,864
Now quick pause.

135
00:09:40,864 --> 00:09:48,278
If this is landing for you, if you're if you're looking at the deep ocean a little
differently right now, share this episode with with one person.

136
00:09:48,278 --> 00:09:49,119
Just one.

137
00:09:49,119 --> 00:09:53,861
Text it to somebody who loves the ocean or someone who has never thought about it once.

138
00:09:53,861 --> 00:09:57,844
Honestly, that's the most that's the most honestly, that's most useful things.

139
00:09:57,844 --> 00:10:00,045
Honestly, that's one of the most useful things you can do.

140
00:10:00,045 --> 00:10:01,985
And it takes only seconds.

141
00:10:02,526 --> 00:10:03,507
Okay, part three.

142
00:10:03,507 --> 00:10:08,509
And this is the part that turns a lot of this from nature documentary into a decision.

143
00:10:08,651 --> 00:10:18,997
Because at the same time we're discovering how animals and because at the same time we're
discovering how alive and how important the midwater is, there's a serious push to start

144
00:10:18,997 --> 00:10:20,467
mining below it.

145
00:10:20,548 --> 00:10:21,929
It's called deep sea mining.

146
00:10:21,929 --> 00:10:30,373
The target is the seafloor, thousands of meters down, where valuable metals sit in
potato-sized lumps called nodules.

147
00:10:30,493 --> 00:10:34,035
Cobalt, nickel, copper, manganese, manganese.

148
00:10:34,035 --> 00:10:37,065
Cobalt, nickel, copper, manganese.

149
00:10:37,065 --> 00:10:39,867
Metals used in batteries and electronics.

150
00:10:39,867 --> 00:10:44,811
Companies want to send machines down to scrape and vacuum those nodules off the bottom.

151
00:10:45,032 --> 00:10:47,423
Now there's a connection to everything, as I just told you.

152
00:10:47,423 --> 00:10:50,636
Mining the seafloor doesn't stay on the seafloor.

153
00:10:50,636 --> 00:11:01,625
The machine kicks up huge clouds of sediment, and that and to run the equipment, operators
operators pump material up the ship up to the ship, then discharge the leftover slurry

154
00:11:01,625 --> 00:11:02,726
back into the water.

155
00:11:02,726 --> 00:11:07,109
That creates plumes, clouds of fine sediment drifting through the midwater.

156
00:11:07,233 --> 00:11:14,936
That exact the exact zone that's all full of these fragile animals that are so important
to the ocean and so important to the planet.

157
00:11:15,977 --> 00:11:17,497
And here's the problem.

158
00:11:17,698 --> 00:11:19,838
And this is and this is backed by research.

159
00:11:19,838 --> 00:11:24,580
Midwater animals evolve in some of the clearest, calmest, most stable water on Earth.

160
00:11:24,580 --> 00:11:27,482
There's normally almost no sediment out there.

161
00:11:27,482 --> 00:11:30,023
And so that they are not built for mud.

162
00:11:30,023 --> 00:11:35,532
Sediments warn that fine scientists warn that fine particles can clog the feeding
structures of filter feeders.

163
00:11:35,532 --> 00:11:37,803
And the breathing structures of small fish.

164
00:11:37,803 --> 00:11:47,187
Those larvations I mentioned earlier, they're the ones that filter carbon out of the
water, their delicate mucus filters can get completely clogged.

165
00:11:47,267 --> 00:11:56,171
For jellies and siphanophores, sediment for jellies and syphanophores, sediment sticking
to their bodies can throw off their buoyancy.

166
00:11:56,211 --> 00:11:59,232
Their basic ability to stay where they need to be.

167
00:11:59,232 --> 00:12:01,653
Their basic ability to stay where they need to be.

168
00:12:02,861 --> 00:12:06,424
There's a lab study on deep sea jellyfish, the helmet jellyfish.

169
00:12:06,484 --> 00:12:11,908
There's a lab study on a deep sea jellyfish, the helmet jellyfish, published by the
Journal of Nature Communications.

170
00:12:12,690 --> 00:12:14,971
Published in the journal Nature Communications.

171
00:12:14,971 --> 00:12:18,934
The researchers exposed it to sediment like you'd get from the mining plume.

172
00:12:19,095 --> 00:12:26,601
And the stress response from the sediment was more severe than the stress response from a
four degree jump in water temperature.

173
00:12:26,722 --> 00:12:28,243
Sit with that for a second.

174
00:12:28,243 --> 00:12:31,355
For this animal, the mud was worse than extreme warming.

175
00:12:31,883 --> 00:12:36,379
And these plumes don't stay small because the midwater is one connected.

176
00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:40,755
Because the midwater is one connected moving system, scientists warn.

177
00:12:43,821 --> 00:12:45,322
I guess read that again.

178
00:12:45,902 --> 00:12:50,606
And these plumes don't stay small because the midwater is one connected moving system.

179
00:12:50,606 --> 00:13:01,913
Scientists warn plumes could spread for tens of even thousands of kilometers, and some of
the and some of the metals released could linger in the water for a very, very long time.

180
00:13:02,354 --> 00:13:03,795
So put it all together.

181
00:13:03,795 --> 00:13:06,877
We have barely explored the largest habitat on Earth.

182
00:13:06,877 --> 00:13:11,780
We're discovering it's full and of we're discovering that it's full of unknown life.

183
00:13:11,780 --> 00:13:13,825
We're discovering that it's full of unknown life.

184
00:13:13,825 --> 00:13:23,282
Nah, we're discovering that it's full of unknown life, doing critical work for the
climate, and we're on the edge of industrialization, and we're on the edge of

185
00:13:23,282 --> 00:13:26,454
industrializing it before we understand it.

186
00:13:27,735 --> 00:13:29,526
Here's the hopeful part, and it's real.

187
00:13:29,526 --> 00:13:31,657
This is not decided yet.

188
00:13:31,918 --> 00:13:37,142
The body that governs mining in international waters is called the International Seabed
Authority, the ISA.

189
00:13:37,142 --> 00:13:42,215
And so far, they have not finished the rule book that would allow full commercial mining
to start.

190
00:13:42,336 --> 00:13:44,327
Meanwhile, the pressure is building the other way.

191
00:13:44,327 --> 00:13:54,994
As of 2026, around 40 countries have formally called for a pause, a moratorium on an
outright and an out or an outright ban on deep sea mining until the science catches up.

192
00:13:55,255 --> 00:13:56,656
And here's the detail that I love.

193
00:13:56,656 --> 00:14:00,438
Two of those countries are Canada, my country, and Brazil.

194
00:14:00,438 --> 00:14:05,621
Brazil, right off one of the coasts, this expedition just found all this new life.

195
00:14:05,922 --> 00:14:11,201
So this so this is one of the most so this is one of those rare moments where the door is
still open.

196
00:14:11,201 --> 00:14:16,104
The decision is still being made, and public pressure genuinely matters here.

197
00:14:16,384 --> 00:14:18,825
So here's a takeaway I want to leave you with.

198
00:14:19,006 --> 00:14:21,247
The deep ocean is not empty.

199
00:14:21,247 --> 00:14:22,748
It is not a wasteland.

200
00:14:22,748 --> 00:14:25,730
It's the largest living space on earth.

201
00:14:25,730 --> 00:14:31,694
It's full of animals, we're only just meeting, and it's quietly helping hold our climate
together.

202
00:14:31,914 --> 00:14:32,915
And we're lucky.

203
00:14:32,915 --> 00:14:36,037
We're getting to see this fit, we're getting to see its face at the moment.

204
00:14:36,037 --> 00:14:37,157
uh

205
00:14:38,497 --> 00:14:42,713
We're getting to see its face right at the moment we decide what to do with it.

206
00:14:42,713 --> 00:14:45,521
Right now, that choice is still ours to make.

207
00:14:47,585 --> 00:14:50,607
Now, like always, let's make this doable.

208
00:14:50,607 --> 00:14:52,749
Like now, like always, let's make this doable.

209
00:14:52,749 --> 00:14:58,533
I'm not gonna pretend that you can't stop I'm not gonna pretend that you can't stop a
mining ship from your couch.

210
00:14:58,533 --> 00:15:01,675
I'm not gonna pretend that you can stop a mining ship from your couch.

211
00:15:01,675 --> 00:15:05,077
But here are a few honest real things that you can do this week.

212
00:15:05,137 --> 00:15:07,239
One, go watch the footage.

213
00:15:07,239 --> 00:15:16,645
The Smith Ocean to the Smith the Smith the Schmidt Ocean to The Schmidt Ocean Institute
puts its dives on YouTube for free, and many of them stream live.

214
00:15:16,821 --> 00:15:20,444
Search Stream Ocean Institute and just watch a dive.

215
00:15:20,444 --> 00:15:22,325
See the octopus for yourself.

216
00:15:22,325 --> 00:15:26,027
When people can picture what's down there, they start to care about it.

217
00:15:26,027 --> 00:15:27,208
That's not nothing.

218
00:15:27,208 --> 00:15:29,129
That's how movement starts.

219
00:15:29,630 --> 00:15:34,353
Two, find out where the two, find out where your country stands on deep sea mining.

220
00:15:34,353 --> 00:15:37,755
If you're in Canada and Brazil, your government has already backed a pause.

221
00:15:37,755 --> 00:15:41,958
So a quick, so a quick thank you note to your representative helps reinforce it.

222
00:15:41,958 --> 00:15:46,447
If you're somewhere that hasn't, that's a short, polite email we're sending.

223
00:15:46,447 --> 00:15:47,137
Keep it simple.

224
00:15:47,137 --> 00:15:51,990
Just ask them to support a precautionary pause until the science is in.

225
00:15:52,190 --> 00:15:55,212
Three, follow the science and share it.

226
00:15:55,212 --> 00:16:04,696
Groups like the Schmidt Ocean Institute, the Monterey Bay Aquarium Research Institute, and
the Ocean Discovery League are doing this work out in the open.

227
00:16:04,696 --> 00:16:05,457
Follow them.

228
00:16:05,457 --> 00:16:06,597
Share a clip.

229
00:16:06,597 --> 00:16:10,639
Every share puts these animals in front of someone who's never seen them.

230
00:16:10,820 --> 00:16:13,120
And four, a slower one.

231
00:16:13,201 --> 00:16:15,956
A lot of the demand for deep sea metals is tied to batteries.

232
00:16:15,956 --> 00:16:25,870
So anything that supports using less or reusing more, recycling your old electronics
properly, supporting better battery recycling, backing the companies working on it, chips

233
00:16:25,870 --> 00:16:29,671
away at the argument that we have no choice but to mine the deep sea.

234
00:16:29,671 --> 00:16:31,492
We do have choices.

235
00:16:32,332 --> 00:16:37,804
None of these fix it overnight, but this is a fight about attention as much as anything
else.

236
00:16:40,270 --> 00:16:46,232
For more of history, for more for most of history, the deep sea's biggest problem was
simply that nobody was looking.

237
00:16:46,672 --> 00:16:47,752
You're looking.

238
00:16:47,752 --> 00:16:51,693
You looking and caring and passing it on changes that.

239
00:16:52,173 --> 00:16:53,674
That's the episode for today.

240
00:16:53,674 --> 00:16:59,756
If this is something, if you got something out of this, follow the show, share it with one
person, and we'll see you in the next one.

241
00:16:59,756 --> 00:17:01,190
I want to thank you so much for joining me.

242
00:17:01,190 --> 00:17:08,654
And if you want to support the podcast, stuff I do on the podcast, on YouTube, as well as
on TikTok, Instagram, and Facebook.

243
00:17:08,654 --> 00:17:14,788
Please feel free to go to speakupforblue.com forward slash Patreon and support the effort
I do on Patreon.

244
00:17:14,788 --> 00:17:17,400
That's speakoutforblue.com forward slash Patreon.

245
00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:21,253
I want to thank you so much for joining me on today's episode of the How to Protect the
Ocean Podcast.

246
00:17:21,253 --> 00:17:22,504
I am your host, Andrew Lewin.

247
00:17:22,504 --> 00:17:23,164
Have a great day.

248
00:17:23,164 --> 00:17:25,896
We'll talk to you next time and happy conservation.

249
00:17:28,813 --> 00:17:29,743
Okay, Michelle.

250
00:17:29,743 --> 00:17:33,224
So these are I think I like these better in terms of storytelling.

251
00:17:33,224 --> 00:17:34,354
It's not like punchy.

252
00:17:34,354 --> 00:17:41,234
I find that what I was doing before sounded too much like AI was scripting it, which it
is, but it sounded too much.

253
00:17:41,234 --> 00:17:42,636
And it sounds like a lot of everybody else.

254
00:17:42,636 --> 00:17:45,196
So I like these types of stories, they're making it a lot more unique.

255
00:17:45,196 --> 00:17:46,837
So um yeah, we'll kind of continue.

256
00:17:46,837 --> 00:17:48,227
These would be great videos.

257
00:17:48,227 --> 00:17:51,723
Um, but yeah, we'll just continue with these on the podcast.

258
00:17:51,723 --> 00:17:52,568
All right.

259
00:17:52,568 --> 00:17:53,543
See ya.