The Ocean Connection We Are Losing, And Why It Matters

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People protect what they
love, and ocean conservation

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really starts with connection.

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That's what we're gonna be focusing
on today's episode of the How

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to Protect the Ocean podcast
'cause this is Oceans Day, folks.

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It is Oceans Day.

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It's a day where we take the
time to celebrate this beautiful

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blue planet that we have.

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Over 71% of the ocean covers this planet.

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It provides oxygen for every
second breath that we take.

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And it's time that we reflect on that
and what the ocean provides us, not

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only from a resource perspective, but
also from just a beauty perspective

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and a cultural perspective.

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I think it's something that we forget a
lot of the times, whether it be the ocean,

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whether it be lakes, whether it be rivers.

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I think it's time that we start to really
value what we do in and around the ocean,

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and really start to talk about that and
remember that when we're actually working

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in and around the ocean when we're talking
about industries and things like that.

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So we're gonna talk about that on
today's episode 'cause this is the How

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to Protect the Ocean podcast, where
you get your weekday ocean news update.

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for the ocean where they can learn and
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the ocean better in their daily lives.

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So let's get into it 'cause, like, here's
the thing, is I always love Oceans Day,

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but every day is Oceans Day for me.

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We talk about it literally
five days a week.

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And we think about the
ocean each and every day.

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Not everybody does.

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You may not, and that's fine.

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It doesn't really matter.

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The fact is I used to hate Oceans Day in a
way because it was just like only one day.

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People only look at it for one day.

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And then it turned into an Oceans Week
'cause there were events all week in

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certain spots like Washington, DC,
and Toronto and all over the place.

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And then of course they have, like,
Climate Week before that here in Toronto.

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Although we don't really talk a lot
about the oceans, unfortunately,

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when we talk about climate, which
is a thing that we need to do more.

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Which is why people should listen
to this episode more, this show,

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especially this episode because
we're talking about Oceans Day.

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And you know, like, let's be
honest, I saw a post on LinkedIn.

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Unfortunately, I can't remember who
did it, but it was a friend of mine who

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said, "A lot of the times we focus in
on what the ocean can do as a resource."

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What can it give us?

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Can it give us critical minerals?

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Can it give us power?

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Can it give us fish, like food?

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Can it give us security?

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A lot of the times we forget
to talk about the cultural

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ties that we have to the ocean.

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There are a lot of coastal communities.

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I mean, 60% of the people on this
planet live along coastlines.

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There is more than just using it as a
resource, is that what it provides us.

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It provides people with culture,
provides it, you know, they're in their

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stories from a religious aspect and a
cultural aspect and historical aspect,

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is how we discovered different places
on the planet was through the water.

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It was how we discovered new medications.

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I know that's kind of acting as a
resource, but the exploration and the

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beauty is the reason why we go to the
beach on a vacation, because we want to

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go and just enjoy the calm blue water,

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or the calm, productive
waters of the ocean.

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Whether you're in the tropics
or whether you're in temperate

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or whether you're in the Arctic
environments, you can enjoy the ocean.

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One thing that I'm doing after I
record this is I'm getting ready

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to go to a trip to Halifax for a
conference for my work at Pisces Oceans.

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And I'm looking forward to it.

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It's been a while since
I've been to Halifax.

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My wife and I worked there when we were
younger, over 20 years ago, and I did my

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master's out there at Acadia University.

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And during that time, I got to live by
the ocean for like, it was two years.

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It wasn't a lot of time in
my life, but I got to live.

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It was a dream of mine
to live by the ocean.

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And we would go down to the harbor front,
and we would look at just the ocean.

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We would look in, we'd see the
jellyfish that were around there.

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Let's be honest, like
it's a pretty big port.

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The water quality has something
to said, but we got to see a

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lot of cool things in that.

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We got to see whales come into the harbor.

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We got to see dolphins come
into the harbor over that time.

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We got to go on the harbor, like on
these boats, these sailboats that would

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take you around and do a harbor tour.

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And it was really invigorating.

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It was one of those things where
you're just like, "I get to just sit

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here with my ice cream from Cowies."

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That's if you know
Halifax, you know Cowies.

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And share with at the time was my
girlfriend, but was gonna be my

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wife, and now is wife of 21 years.

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And we got to sit and just chat about
life and look out on the ocean And

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it was just this calming sensation
for both of us where we just got

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to live and be around the ocean.

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You could smell the ocean.

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Sometimes good smells,
sometimes not so good smells.

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There's this feeling you get
when you live around the ocean.

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And you can tell when you meet
somebody that's from a coastal area.

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They're a little bit more laid
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nature-focused, and they enjoy the ocean.

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They enjoy being in nature.

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And I think there's a lot of people
who enjoy it in different ways.

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You got people who go on beach
vacations or there's like fishing

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or there's whale watching, surfing,
which I've never been good at.

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Scuba diving, which I do.

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Just working on the water, it's something
I've been able to do over my lifetime.

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And then just simply like
listening to the waves.

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It's really cool to just
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Close your eyes, like maybe lie
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and just listen to the waves.

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Listen to those crashing up
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sometimes a little bit more harshly.

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But it's so much fun.

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And I think what happens
is we lose sight of that.

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We lose sight of what the ocean
brings us from a mental health

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aspect, what the ocean brings us
from, just like a feeling of peace.

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Just a feeling of enjoyment.

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You see people kayaking the ocean,
you see people on their boats, you

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see people recreational fishing.

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It brings a lot of joy to a lot of people.

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And I feel like a lot of the times,
even when you listen to this podcast,

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especially when you listen to this
podcast, we talk about conservation.

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We talk about major issues that have
been seen in and around the ocean.

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I had, um, a listener give
some feedback on Spotify.

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And she loved the podcast, but she was
saying, "Hey, you know what? The five

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episodes is a lot. It plugs up my feed."
Which I'm working on that, by the way.

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That'll come out in probably about a week.

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And she was saying, "Hey, look,
I love the episodes, but I can't

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listen to them all the time," 'cause
a lot of topics are pretty heavy.

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And it's true.

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I never thought about it that way.

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Sometimes you lose sight of that 'cause
you're trying to bring optimism, but a

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lot of the topics that we talk about on
this episode, it can be pretty heavy.

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Like, they're not something that
you would just sit back and relax

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and listen to, although some
people do, some people don't.

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But they're heavy topics.

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They're a little bit different than
some of the other podcasts that

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are out there that are, like, maybe
more popular, a little bit more

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relaxed that you wanna listen to.

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And I feel the same way.

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Like, when I listen to podcasts on, like,
marketing and, like, entrepreneurship

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and all this, it's something that I like.

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After a while I'm like, "I need to
just kind of relax and just get a

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podcast that's maybe talking about
sports or talking about life and just

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lifestyles in general, and just, like,
a comedy show that's not…" Like,

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trying to get a comedy podcast that's
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of stuff, just, like, regular stuff.

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It's difficult to do more than you think.

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But we try and do that.

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So, like, I had that feedback and
it was great to hear because, like,

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people wanted to hear about this.

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But a lot of the topics that
we talk about can be heavy.

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And so last week we talked
about cold water species.

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We talked about the blue shark,
the mola mola, the ocean sunfish.

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Talked about leatherback sea turtle.

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We talk about the animals that you
see in tide pools, which I'm hoping

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to kinda do a little bit when I
go to Halifax, and explore those.

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And I think that's something that
when you're able to be there all the

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time, and you're able to go, like…

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Nova Scotia has the highest tides in the
world, and if I'm able to go to the Bay of

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Fundy when I'm out there, which I probably
won't, but I always wanna go, you just

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see those, when the tide recedes and you
see all this open, basically mud flats.

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And you see all these animals
kinda scurrying around or hiding

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under a rock, these crabs, the
scallops that are underneath.

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It's just so cool.

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It's just so cool.

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And you get to witness
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So I talk about the ocean, but
I grew up around Great Lakes.

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And not a lot of people
can be by the ocean.

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But you can be by a river, you can
be by a lake, you can be by a stream.

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I highly recommend that if you live
by a body of water, that you make

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the time today, especially today on
Oceans Day, to just go and enjoy.

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Enjoy the water, enjoy the calm,
the peace, and really reflect

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on what you want this year to be
for you and living within nature.

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A lot of the times, we think we are at
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And yes, we do have a huge influence,
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chain when it comes to the planet.

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Yes, we affect it and yes, we can
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don't really control the weather.

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We don't control the climate.

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We can affect it, but we don't control it.

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We live in sort of this, like,
pyramid with all the other

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animals, and we're part of that.

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And so, like, think about where our place
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we have and the ability to protect and
destroy what this planet has naturally.

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And it's not about manipulation for money.

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It's not about trying to gouge the
ocean and its resources for everything

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that it has until we have nothing
left, but we got all this money.

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It's about living in peace with the ocean.

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It's about respecting the ocean.

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And I'm gonna leave you with this.

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I've talked about it before on the
podcast, but if you're new here,

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you haven't heard me talk about it.

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I was at the World Ocean Summit in
Montreal just a couple months ago.

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It was a huge summit.

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It changed my life, really.

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Got me a new job with Pisces
Oceans, which is the sponsor

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of this show, but it's great.

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It literally changed my life.

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But one of the things that I heard that
really changed my life is Ken Paul, who's

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an indigenous person who lives in Canada,
and he's got a lot of work, he does a lot

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of work with indigenous groups as well as
non-indigenous groups around the ocean.

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And he talked about how there's
been, like, this lack of respect

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that we've had for the ocean, that
a lot of people have for the ocean.

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It's just we don't respect the ocean.

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We just use the ocean
for what we need it for.

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And that was really powerful for me.

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If we start to respect the ocean, and in
every decision that we make, the ocean is

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part of that decision, like the health of
the ocean is considered in each part of

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that decision, we become a better people.

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We become a better species.

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Our planet becomes better.

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We are not just ripping it to shreds
so that we can get an extra buck.

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We are taking care of it
because it's taking care of us.

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And I think that's what I wanna leave you
with today because I think it's extremely

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important to say, "Hey, you know what?

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We need to build this out as a community,
and we need to have this community enjoy

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the ocean and respect the ocean and
speak highly of it in every decision

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that they make." Whether it's buying
something at the convenience store or

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bring your reusable water bottle wherever
you go and grabbing that water or drinks

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wherever you go, that's important.

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Those are important decisions that
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And I think also, as you look forward, is
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community?" I was on another call a couple
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A great, great guy.

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He's been on the podcast
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the ocean in general and the community
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of the times the people, like when we
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like, when we go online and we talk about
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we get attacked right away, whether
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people who come on and just be
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The ocean sucks.

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Who cares, Mick?

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I don't care about a sea turtle and a
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people who are, care about the ocean.

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you can come there as a collective.

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So you come for the community, you
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let's protect the ocean. I care
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you stay for the cleanups, and you
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For those of you who are listening
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looking for that community, we
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I'd love to start that online community
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talking about the ocean back and forth.

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I may start the conversation
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can have this type of community.

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So give me some time and
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I think it's kind of a
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I always like to look at the
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I have a couple of them.

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There's the New Year, actual physical
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the New Year of Oceans Day, and then
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consider as my birthday, 'cause it used
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It used to start right before school,
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But Oceans Day has come to be like
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do in this new year is interact more
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so that we can have this community.

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And I would love to do that by opening
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So if you go to
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have this community of fun where we get
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the ocean, we can have a good time.

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I'm gonna put up some things right now.

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This is where you're gonna
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So you're gonna get a feed where you can
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you're gonna get a feed where you get
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I'll have instructions on there.

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That part will be for free.

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If you wanna join the community at large,
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So, it'll be a lot of fun.

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I can't wait to do it.

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But yes, you can support the podcast.

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A lot of people have reached out.

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It's like, "Andrew, I wanna support
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I do have an editor, and I do have
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so it'll help me pay for this and
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But if you go to
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be able to join the community there.

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That's it for today's episode.

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Happy Oceans Day.

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I wanna thank you for joining me
today, the next few weeks, the next

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year, and then all the ones who have
been with me since the beginning

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and your journey throughout that.

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I wanna thank you so much for the support.

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I wanna thank you so much for joining me.

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Looking forward to
talking to you tomorrow.

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We're gonna talk about why protests,
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could affect the climate, which could
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centers, have been working, and why
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people are attacking the environment.

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We're gonna talk about that tomorrow.

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So follow this episode so you can get
in touch with me tomorrow, and you can

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get this episode tomorrow where we talk
about data centers and protests and

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some of the wins that we've been seeing.

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All right, that's it for today's episode.

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Thank you so much for joining
me on today's episode of the How

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to Protect the Ocean podcast.

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Have a great day.

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We'll talk to you next time,
and happy conservation.